Uncontrolled Airways
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From: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Uncontrolled Airways
I just made a trip DKR to JNB on the offshore airways. Are these treated a uncontrolled or advisory airspace? We did the usual position reports, but asked for and received a clearance to climb FL 410 to FL 450, as the captain asked for a clearance and would not climb without clearance. I felt it was Class G or F (cannot remember exact position) and a clearance was not required, only the TIBA broadcast and the level maintaining during the next position report.
GF
Corp Jet and not a frequent traveler to RSA.
GF
Corp Jet and not a frequent traveler to RSA.
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From: The No Transgression Zone
I don't know if it were G or F [I'm] only commenting to say nevertheless I agree with the captain's position of obtaining a 'clearance'---on the princilple of safety--for just as it's legal to Make IFR approaches W/O a FP in class G airspace the risk may not be justified---So it's probably more symbolic in nature
but may give others on frequency a chance to hear you're intentions as well---if it were class F [weired uncontrolled RADAR airspace outside of USA] then the benefit may be more apparent--and not to sound gloomy--if an incident should occurs it demonstrates that the flight crew took ALL possible measure to assure SA
Other I'm sure will provide greater detail---but from your description of the situation --I'd say why not---on the other hand what if you couldn't get 'clearance'---interesting situation
CAVU,
PA
but may give others on frequency a chance to hear you're intentions as well---if it were class F [weired uncontrolled RADAR airspace outside of USA] then the benefit may be more apparent--and not to sound gloomy--if an incident should occurs it demonstrates that the flight crew took ALL possible measure to assure SA
Other I'm sure will provide greater detail---but from your description of the situation --I'd say why not---on the other hand what if you couldn't get 'clearance'---interesting situation
CAVU,
PA
