MD-11 Factoids
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MD-11 Factoids
Does anybody have any interesting Factoids regarding this great aircraft?
Some common questions include - Why start engine 3 first?
Also, what is the only piece of wood in the cockpit?
What are the clearview window handles actually made from?
Some common questions include - Why start engine 3 first?
Also, what is the only piece of wood in the cockpit?
What are the clearview window handles actually made from?
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1. Probably the same reason we normally start #2 first on the CRJ. The outboard brakes are on Hyd2, which runs of #2 EDP. We could, of course, run the #2 ACMP and have the same brakes available, but that's not the procedure.
2. The crash axe handle?
2. The crash axe handle?
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MD-11 " It is based on the DC-10, but featuring a stretched fuselage, increased wingspan with winglets, refined aerofoils on the wing and tailplane, new engines and increased use of composite materials. It features an all-digital glass cockpit that decreases the crew to two from the three required on the DC-10."
Don't know much about either but I'm just stating the facts.
Though the DC-10 did birth the KC-10, best tanker since sliced bread.
Don't know much about either but I'm just stating the facts.
Though the DC-10 did birth the KC-10, best tanker since sliced bread.
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great aircraft
I'll try to answer some of your questions though...
Eng 3 first to start: well, like all aircraft, start on the right side, therefore permitting the removal of the forward pax stairway access (red cap last exit chance!), no tech reason known...
I'll also only remember the crash axe handle as piece of wood...
Clearview windows handle material... handles?
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Er, yes, next to the 'incredible DC10' I can't think of a recent generation widebody transport with such a miserable safety record as the MD11..
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DC-10: The best FBW (allthough called Control Wheel Steering)
MD11 : The best cockpit (man/machine interface)
A330 : The best glider (tricky sometimes....) and very economical
A343 : The worst climber but nice and stable
A345 : The biggest fuel guzzler but nice and stable aswell
(from collegues):
B777 : The easiest bird, 773 the best wing
My pick:
Still the MD11. It's due to the interface i worked with and trusted most.
In over 10 years i never had that "... what is it doing ..." feeling.
Tricky to land, high approach speeds, something for men .....
MD11 : The best cockpit (man/machine interface)
A330 : The best glider (tricky sometimes....) and very economical
A343 : The worst climber but nice and stable
A345 : The biggest fuel guzzler but nice and stable aswell
(from collegues):
B777 : The easiest bird, 773 the best wing
My pick:
Still the MD11. It's due to the interface i worked with and trusted most.
In over 10 years i never had that "... what is it doing ..." feeling.
Tricky to land, high approach speeds, something for men .....
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I am brand new here. I work on the DC-10 and the MD-11. They are both good aircraft. The miserable safety record of the MD-11 would be a function of not taking abusive landings very well. One for I believe Air China was destroyed while trying to land in the effects of a typhoon. The DC-10 has had in my opinion few incidents while racking up impressive flight time for the fleet. They are not always easy to work on but they are an honest aircraft. In other words they won't bite you from an unexpected direction.
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Not too sure about the MD11, however , on the L1011 we started the no.2 first, simply because it was closest to the apu. Just less pipe for the bleed air to run to the engine. It sure helped when 'hot'n'high'.
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MD-11 FACTOID.
When working on it you quickly become knowledgeable about it's fire detection, pneumatic and fuel systems
and if you park it next to the old DC-10 you'll notice that the MD-11 has a horizontal stabiliser nearly half the size.
When working on it you quickly become knowledgeable about it's fire detection, pneumatic and fuel systems
and if you park it next to the old DC-10 you'll notice that the MD-11 has a horizontal stabiliser nearly half the size.
Last edited by Flightmech; 14th Jun 2007 at 12:58. Reason: Added info
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Flightmech actually the stabilizer is (as far as the last gray cells tell me) 1/3 less of the size it was on the -10. Alas, MDC engineers once more fiddled around... having lenghtened the fuselage they assumed the longer arm would compensate for the smaller stab, e.g. enough moment.
But flight tests soon showed a lack of authority of the elevators in the flare (still is a problem) and they then retrofitted flaps in front of the elevator for increased effectivness.
, agree on that one.
Though one might appreciate a challenge now and then, I way prefer a docile Airbus or whatever to the way the MD-11 is handling, thanks
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But flight tests soon showed a lack of authority of the elevators in the flare (still is a problem) and they then retrofitted flaps in front of the elevator for increased effectivness.
Tricky to land, high approach speeds, something for men
Though one might appreciate a challenge now and then, I way prefer a docile Airbus or whatever to the way the MD-11 is handling, thanks
live 2 fly 2 live
