morse code
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From: Some where over the rainbow
morse code
doing an aviation course at university and for 1 module, i have to learn the morse code.
i have managed to learn it visually but i am having real trouble trying to interpret the code by audio, i.e. listening to the morse code is much harder!!
wonder how you guys got around the problem??
do all airline pilots need to know it for ground school, i am sure you would not need to know it in cockpit much...
i have managed to learn it visually but i am having real trouble trying to interpret the code by audio, i.e. listening to the morse code is much harder!!
wonder how you guys got around the problem??
do all airline pilots need to know it for ground school, i am sure you would not need to know it in cockpit much...
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From: Peoples Republic of EU
You'd be surprised how useful it is in the cockpit.
On the classic 737's we had to identify all the nav beacons/aids we were going to use. After all if you want to take an aircraft down to 50ft above the ground in fog you had better make sure you are using the right navigation aid. The only way to do this was by identifying through good old morse.
Now the 737NG and the Airbus can identify the aids but they don't always get it right so it's good to have the knowledge to back it up.
On the classic 737's we had to identify all the nav beacons/aids we were going to use. After all if you want to take an aircraft down to 50ft above the ground in fog you had better make sure you are using the right navigation aid. The only way to do this was by identifying through good old morse.
Now the 737NG and the Airbus can identify the aids but they don't always get it right so it's good to have the knowledge to back it up.
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From: Some where over the rainbow
i can iden the bacons by writing down the morse codes of the beacons i intend to use and the various beacons situated en route.
however i am sure there would come a day when i would come across one for which i have not written down the morse code for.
my question was, how did you learn the morse code?
however i am sure there would come a day when i would come across one for which i have not written down the morse code for.
my question was, how did you learn the morse code?
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From: _
Have a look at this
http://www.afeonline.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=733
I've used this to a reasonable degree of success, it builds you up through the alphabet from E to Y (if you see what I mean
)
Hope it helps
http://www.afeonline.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=733
I've used this to a reasonable degree of success, it builds you up through the alphabet from E to Y (if you see what I mean
)Hope it helps
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From: 3 NM on final!
Hi!
Forget all the written simbols! Start again and try to memorize the sound of the letters, not the dots and dashes.
There are many free PC programs in the web to practice on your own. You will hear some dots and dashes and you'll have to identify the letter. The initial speed is very low and it increases as you progress.
Don't practice one day for 5 hours and then leave it for one week. It's better to practice 20 minutes everyday. In a few weeks you will have got the knack of it.
Take it easy!
Forget all the written simbols! Start again and try to memorize the sound of the letters, not the dots and dashes.
There are many free PC programs in the web to practice on your own. You will hear some dots and dashes and you'll have to identify the letter. The initial speed is very low and it increases as you progress.
Don't practice one day for 5 hours and then leave it for one week. It's better to practice 20 minutes everyday. In a few weeks you will have got the knack of it.
Take it easy!
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From: ubiquitous
I agree with DC-8 to some extent.
Learn the sound of letters rather than the number of dots and dashes.
Once you memorise the sound of letters it will be a piece of cake. Then you could try numbers just for the heck of it
I used to "Morse out" all licence plates I was coming across on the motorway
I don't do it much these days lol but it certainly keeps your Morse current..
HTH
Learn the sound of letters rather than the number of dots and dashes.
Once you memorise the sound of letters it will be a piece of cake. Then you could try numbers just for the heck of it
I used to "Morse out" all licence plates I was coming across on the motorway
I don't do it much these days lol but it certainly keeps your Morse current..HTH
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From: 2 m South of Radstock VRP
It would also alleviate the mind numbing boredom. Personally, I find audio morse relatively easy by listening to three sound of it. People who can read/send with visuals are always a source of wonder for me. Now where did I put my Aldis lamp?
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From: Green Cove Springs FL
Have a look at this, a free morse code trainer:
http://www.mrx.com.au/d_morse.htm
Morse code @ 5 w.p.m. is still required for a full US amateur radio license.
Good luck!
http://www.mrx.com.au/d_morse.htm
Morse code @ 5 w.p.m. is still required for a full US amateur radio license.
Good luck!
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From: Here and there
"How did you learn the Morse Code?" ...
Ask a local flying school if they've got the contact details of someone who runs Morse Code "classes". Don't be surprised, someone may still run classes. If not, google it.
I went for one such class just to get me going and then finished it off myself with the "audio cassette" the instructor sold me. Had to pass the test at 7 words/minute.
Listened to that tape in my car everywhere I went (needed to have a pass in that fairly quickly back then), and even cut out the Morse Code from a Jepessen Chart and stuck it to my steering wheel.
Even ended up doing what Cesco did while driving... alphabets AND numbers, tho the test had just alphabets and groups of 5 letter words at random (that actually meant/spelt-out nothing.... eg.: GILPT, ARXUN etc.)
You'll get there. Good luck!
Ask a local flying school if they've got the contact details of someone who runs Morse Code "classes". Don't be surprised, someone may still run classes. If not, google it.
I went for one such class just to get me going and then finished it off myself with the "audio cassette" the instructor sold me. Had to pass the test at 7 words/minute.
Listened to that tape in my car everywhere I went (needed to have a pass in that fairly quickly back then), and even cut out the Morse Code from a Jepessen Chart and stuck it to my steering wheel.
Even ended up doing what Cesco did while driving... alphabets AND numbers, tho the test had just alphabets and groups of 5 letter words at random (that actually meant/spelt-out nothing.... eg.: GILPT, ARXUN etc.)
You'll get there. Good luck!
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From: Down under land
I agree with the comments above - if you can avoid looking at the dots and dashes right from the start it will make it easier for you - else you will have an extra step to do ie. sound to dots/dash then to letters. The "sound only" method has been used by amateur radio operators for many years. Your local amateur club/electronic stores would have these courses in the forms of audio tapes.
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From: UK
Here's another useful Morse practice webpage. It'll generate AU soundfiles to order, made up at whatever speeds, letter-ranges, etc that you choose. It'll even do you a mock exam, and has a bunch of info on how to approach the subject from a learning perspective.
http://www.aa9pw.com/radio/morse.html
Good luck! Patience and Persistence will win the day!
http://www.aa9pw.com/radio/morse.html
Good luck! Patience and Persistence will win the day!
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From: Escapee from Ultima Thule
You're trying to learn an aural language, not a written one, for aviation use. It's the rythm & intonation of the sound that needs to be learnt since that's what you'll hear eg d'dah .......... dah'd'd'dit .......... dah'd'dah'dit NOT dot dash .......... dash dot dot dot ........ dash dot dash dot.
I used an audio cassette while driving to & from work. It started with the teacher's voice pronouncing the letters with the rythm then lated used tones.
I used an audio cassette while driving to & from work. It started with the teacher's voice pronouncing the letters with the rythm then lated used tones.
:-) (-:
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From: Austria
I also only learned the written morse code, can't really do the aural one (not fluend enough) - but:
you don't really need that for identifying any beacons. All the morse codes for the beacons are on the maps, approach charts, ... just next to the frequency or identifyer. So I just look at the . and - and compare them while listening.
Another way I usually did years ago was write down the . and - and then work out what it means - just like:
...././.-../.-../--- //
Have fun!
Eli
you don't really need that for identifying any beacons. All the morse codes for the beacons are on the maps, approach charts, ... just next to the frequency or identifyer. So I just look at the . and - and compare them while listening.
Another way I usually did years ago was write down the . and - and then work out what it means
- just like: ...././.-../.-../--- //
Have fun!
Eli
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From: Europe
It is achievable to learn morse in two days. That's what I did. And passed the exam. All you need is a good tutorial program. Focus on the audio, never mind how it looks on paper. To know morse is to be able to make sense of alot of doots and dits, so start with "A" - dit-doot, then "B" - doo-dit-dit-dit and so on...
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From: Merseyside
Many years ago whe I was still in the Navy, I used to car share with a guy on regular trips from Merseyside to Portsmouth and back most weekends.
He was learning morse code at the time for a particular course he was on. Using a tape in his walkman he would listen to morse and told me that after a bit of practice it was like listening to music, you recognised the flow of the sound rather than the notes it is made from. And he was learning military tactical Russian!!
He was learning morse code at the time for a particular course he was on. Using a tape in his walkman he would listen to morse and told me that after a bit of practice it was like listening to music, you recognised the flow of the sound rather than the notes it is made from. And he was learning military tactical Russian!!
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From: Somewhere nice
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From: North of CDG
, but it's useful to know all the same - especially to ident en route navaids.Cheers
