Supplement Beech 200
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Supplement Beech 200
Hello everyone
I've read that beechcraft published a supplement about the kingair and the steep approach. I would be very grateful if you can send me this supplement for Beech 200 and B200 (or the link).
Thanks and have a good flight
I've read that beechcraft published a supplement about the kingair and the steep approach. I would be very grateful if you can send me this supplement for Beech 200 and B200 (or the link).
Thanks and have a good flight
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From: germany
There are several steep approaches in Europe, like London City and Lugano.
We used to fly these approaches in the past and it isnīt a problem with the B200. Since 12 Month we are not alowed to fly these approaches anymore, because the POH doesnīt give any information that the B200 is certified to fly steep approaches.
Inbalance
We used to fly these approaches in the past and it isnīt a problem with the B200. Since 12 Month we are not alowed to fly these approaches anymore, because the POH doesnīt give any information that the B200 is certified to fly steep approaches.
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From: schermoney and left front seat
AFAIK there is a supplement for the B200, but it costs.
Ask the guys at LCY Jet Centre, I forgot the fellows name, but one guy knows it all. I had the issue roughly a year ago for a C90B, and Beech hadn´t done a Supplement for the 90 at that time, but I was told they offer one for the B200.
Ask the guys at LCY Jet Centre, I forgot the fellows name, but one guy knows it all. I had the issue roughly a year ago for a C90B, and Beech hadn´t done a Supplement for the 90 at that time, but I was told they offer one for the B200.
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From: MIRSI hold - give or take...
His dudeness,
Without the supplement, how can you
a) provide your crew with steep approach course documentation? - I think the local CAA would appreciate training being carried out as per AFM supp's. And
b) how do you prove that you operated your aircraft within AFM limits?
You might want to re-think this one
Without the supplement, how can you
a) provide your crew with steep approach course documentation? - I think the local CAA would appreciate training being carried out as per AFM supp's. And
b) how do you prove that you operated your aircraft within AFM limits?
You might want to re-think this one
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From: EGGD KFXE EGBJ
BFC at bristol can offer the steep approach supplement for the b200
plus the required training and the ops manual requirements if uk pt ops
having said that we have only flown into the city 5-6 trips in 2 years with pax which makes you wonder if its worth the bother!
plus the required training and the ops manual requirements if uk pt ops
having said that we have only flown into the city 5-6 trips in 2 years with pax which makes you wonder if its worth the bother!
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From: schermoney and left front seat
Well,
it WAS totally okay for about 6 to 8 years. There was no Supplement to the AFM for the B200 (that I flew then) and the Authorities just wanted a Procedure to OM-A and D for the use of London City. I wrote one, containing all necessary information for the training and use of LCY - granted no information wether the KA could actually do the trick was available.
(We trained on the actual aircraft with VNAV capable FMS and indication via the EFIS PFD)
Everybody was happy: in our case LCY Airport, the CAA and the LBA (german Authority).
Landed in LCY maybe 25 times, give or take a few times...
Then somebody discovered that there are Supplements to the AFM for steep approaches.
IMO the situation is: well we know for sure the KA can go into LCY, likely thousands of movements have been done without incident, but now we need to prove what we already know.
IF there would be any doubt to the capability to perform that type of approach on the aircraft I fly, I´d certainly won´t do it without the prove...
If you ever flew a B200 (or any other PT6ed KingAir) and you pulled back the throttles and had the props full forward you know that she could go even steeper than 6 degrees. Its like an elevator going down.
it WAS totally okay for about 6 to 8 years. There was no Supplement to the AFM for the B200 (that I flew then) and the Authorities just wanted a Procedure to OM-A and D for the use of London City. I wrote one, containing all necessary information for the training and use of LCY - granted no information wether the KA could actually do the trick was available.
(We trained on the actual aircraft with VNAV capable FMS and indication via the EFIS PFD)
Everybody was happy: in our case LCY Airport, the CAA and the LBA (german Authority).
Landed in LCY maybe 25 times, give or take a few times...
Then somebody discovered that there are Supplements to the AFM for steep approaches.
IMO the situation is: well we know for sure the KA can go into LCY, likely thousands of movements have been done without incident, but now we need to prove what we already know.
IF there would be any doubt to the capability to perform that type of approach on the aircraft I fly, I´d certainly won´t do it without the prove...
If you ever flew a B200 (or any other PT6ed KingAir) and you pulled back the throttles and had the props full forward you know that she could go even steeper than 6 degrees. Its like an elevator going down.
