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Old 1st August 2006 | 03:58
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Hi,

I am producing a CD which is themed on a 4-8 passenger plane that goes down in a tropical storm (over land) during the 1930's. The first track on it will be constructed to replicate the sounds (and words exchanged) which would have been heard within the cabin.

I would be very appreciative if someone could point me in the right direction regarding the specific verbal dialog that would have taken place in this situation. - No, I don't mean swearing or prayers! - but the types of comments that a professional pilot and co-pilot would have made while fighting to keep control of the airplane under rapidly deteriorating weather conditions - with references to the equipment which would have existed at the time.

I'd be happy to send a complimentary mp3 of the finished track to you for your valued historical and technical assistance.

Many thanks -

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Old 1st August 2006 | 09:34
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Not an instant answer for you, I'm afraid, but dialogues are a little ephemeral for preservation, and I for one wasn't around in the '30s! The conversation would certainly be different from today, as CRM wasn't even a twinkle in its inventor's eye.

However, Ernest K Gann's book "Fate is the Hunter" was written about that kind of flying, at that period and contains some dialogue during critical emergencies. Amazon might help.

You'd better decide the nationality of your pilots, too, as that will greatly affect the way they behave. (Cf: Gann (US), Beatty(Brit), St-Exupery (Fr), etc).
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Old 1st August 2006 | 17:34
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that is indeed a tough one, also the phonetic alphabet has changed, the BOAC comet[structural failure] yoke peter's crash would now be yankee papa's crash....Fate Is The Hunter good read

edited to give correct title of Captain Gann's masterpiece.

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You might find Macarthur Job's Air Crash Vol 1 useful. Note not Air Disaster Vol 1 by the same author.

It details 10 significant aircraft accidents in Australia from 1921 to 1939 and might offer you some useful material.
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Hasn't this already been done?

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Old 2nd August 2006 | 06:28
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Source??

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You might find Macarthur Job's Air Crash Vol 1 useful. Note not Air Disaster Vol 1 by the same author.
It details 10 significant aircraft accidents in Australia from 1921 to 1939 and might offer you some useful material.
Thanks, Bookworm. It does not appear to be in print, but I will try to locate it - it sounds right for the task at hand.
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Old 2nd August 2006 | 06:31
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Hasn't this already been done?
Five Miles Out by MIKE OLDFIELD
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Countdown by RUSH
Memory is not what it was so I may be wrong.
Not familiar with these, but I was just listening to a c. 1935 radio drama with a similar situation. I'm sure it's been done in radio - movies - books and music hundreds of times - it's a compelling topic.
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Old 2nd August 2006 | 06:34
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Not an instant answer for you, I'm afraid, but dialogues are a little ephemeral for preservation, and I for one wasn't around in the '30s! The conversation would certainly be different from today, as CRM wasn't even a twinkle in its inventor's eye.
However, Ernest K Gann's book "Fate is the Hunter" was written about that kind of flying, at that period and contains some dialogue during critical emergencies. Amazon might help.
You'd better decide the nationality of your pilots, too, as that will greatly affect the way they behave. (Cf: Gann (US), Beatty(Brit), St-Exupery (Fr), etc).
Thanks - I'll look for this...
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Old 2nd August 2006 | 08:42
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another book called "behind the cockpit door" dont remember the Author though
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Ring MacCarthur Job who lives in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. International Directories will give you the phone number. I am unsure whether his name is spelt as MacCarthur or McCarthur. He lives in the suburb of Olinda on the Mount Dandenong Tourist Road. A most affable and delightfully charming man to talk to. I am sure he will help you out and tell you where to find his books which are still certainly available in Australia. ,
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