Flap extension before clear signal from ground crew?
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[quote=CaptainProp]
Yikes! I guess we had a bit of a misunderstanding about what you meant to convey. Sorry. /cj
Originally Posted by captain_jeeves
How can you say that this is "my own little thing"? I say again, my SOP very clearly states, that the after-start flow begins when the captain selects the APU bleed off.
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Easy now!! Im saying that EVEN if I AGREE with what was said on the very good reasons for waiting with flap extension, I CANNOT do that AT MY airline because itīs NOT OUR SOP!!
I was NEVER talking about what you should or shouldīnt do! Ok?
/CP
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Easy now!! Im saying that EVEN if I AGREE with what was said on the very good reasons for waiting with flap extension, I CANNOT do that AT MY airline because itīs NOT OUR SOP!!
I was NEVER talking about what you should or shouldīnt do! Ok?
/CP
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I agree that this procedure is not ideal but it does save time in busy aprons. Carriers that do start the after start flow as soon as possible are generaly ready to taxi clear of the apron a minute or two quicker (on average im not saying all the time) than those that don't. This can make a big difference during the early morning rush.
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AA recently changed the procedure on the 737 from lowering the flaps when
clear of the ramp area to doing it during the pushback.
No real reason was given, just reducing stuff to be done during taxi...
clear of the ramp area to doing it during the pushback.
No real reason was given, just reducing stuff to be done during taxi...
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Cup over flap lever
Old Smokey's concern is shared by many, I would suspect. While the Configuration Warning should catch things like this, it would likely result in an abort.
A few of our senior Captains, all retired long ago, had us put one of the white coffee cups over the flap handle to remind that they needed to be lowered. We did it in the sim, and we did it in the jet. Worked every time.
A few of our senior Captains, all retired long ago, had us put one of the white coffee cups over the flap handle to remind that they needed to be lowered. We did it in the sim, and we did it in the jet. Worked every time.