CVR erasure
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CVR erasure
Hi, does anyone know what the little red 'erase' button on the CVR panel does actually? Looking at my FCOM, it is not addressed. Is it a farce, put there by managers to give the crew peace of mind? I push it at the gate before and after I go flying. Am I just wasting energy?
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From: Euroland
Originally Posted by FIRESYSOK
I push it at the gate before and after I go flying. Am I just wasting energy?
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Ths CVR was installed essentially to provide a record of cockpit sounds for use in the event of serious accident resulting in Flight Deck crew loss or injury. It was never installed as a 'spy in the sky' to monitor conversations after a normal flight, or indeed to investigate conversations after an incident when those involved are able to give their evidence afterwards. As far as I am aware, it is every pilots' personal right to erase the recording whenever he so wishes. I understand it does actually erase the loop.
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The question was about CVR, not a combined unit. I am not familiar with these- for larger aeroplanes, I believe a separate CVR is used. Which type of plane uses a combined unit? Also, I cannot imagine an 'Erase' button, even on such a combined unit, will ever erase the FDR side of the unit! The 'Erase' is purely for the pilot's right to erase the CVR.
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Yes, The erase button does indeed erase the entire CVR recording.
On the older tape loop type of CVR the erase was done by passing AC current though a coil of sufficient strength that the magnetic field produced covered the entire tape loop. Thus "recording" onto the loop and erasing any previous recordings. The AC used was a/c 400Hz and the check that the erase was carried out was to monitor the tape output via headphones and listen for a 400Hz hum. As previously stated the a/c has to be on the ground both engines stopped and the park brake set.
How the erase is done on newer flash memory type CVR's I'm afraid I can't answer.
I imagine erasing the CVR after an incident or accident however would be considered a serious offence
On the older tape loop type of CVR the erase was done by passing AC current though a coil of sufficient strength that the magnetic field produced covered the entire tape loop. Thus "recording" onto the loop and erasing any previous recordings. The AC used was a/c 400Hz and the check that the erase was carried out was to monitor the tape output via headphones and listen for a 400Hz hum. As previously stated the a/c has to be on the ground both engines stopped and the park brake set.
How the erase is done on newer flash memory type CVR's I'm afraid I can't answer.
I imagine erasing the CVR after an incident or accident however would be considered a serious offence
