Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

Economic flight profile

Wikiposts
Search
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

Economic flight profile

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 25th Dec 2005, 20:22
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: somewhere in europe
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question Economic flight profile

What is the most economic fligth profile for an jet aircraft?
Most of our captains say that a parable is the most economic profil on a short flight, but I think it's not because climb thrust is set for a longer time than in a profile with a level-off at a cruise altitude where cruise thrust will be set!!??
B738 is offline  
Old 25th Dec 2005, 21:41
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 409
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Perhaps you'd best define what you mean by most economic. Least fuel? Use of Cost Index?

I'm not familiar with parable. Parabola yes, but don't see how that could fit in unless the climb flight path speeds chosen are made to approximate a parabola

Hawk
hawk37 is offline  
Old 26th Dec 2005, 11:37
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: north
Posts: 319
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This should give you a few hints..

Cheers,

M
XPMorten is offline  
Old 26th Dec 2005, 14:44
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: England
Posts: 741
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
As said above it depends on how your company work out their cost profile.

Lowest fuel use on a short trip is generally straight up and striaght down without a cruise.

Lowest fuel on a long leg is as high as you can get.

However I believe that the largest cost per hour is still servicing so the height that gives you the highest groundspeed for the day is the cheapest. Generally around highest TAS depending on winds.

Some flight planning programmes help with this. A particularly good one (I am not connected with the company) is PPS by Air Support of Denmark which uses your own specific airframe with the winds of the day. It may give you different routes and heights for the same trip on different days. It also prints a table on your PLOG to show how costs change by going up or down slightly or by changing payload.

MM
Miles Magister is offline  
Old 26th Dec 2005, 16:02
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UTC +8
Posts: 2,626
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In the real world, on short sectors, especially in crowded airspace, the "economic" cost profile is not something that any pilot has control over, nor does he have time to be dabbling with such matters...because he is too busy with ATC communications, flying SIDS and STARS or otherwise comply with "unplanned" altitude assignments and vectors, airspeed adjustments for in-trail spacing that are hardly "textbook" profile. For openers, in many instances you don't get your "economic" altitude; you're made to descent early [burn more fuel] or late [with speed brakes], ...saturated ATC traffic flows that make a mess of your optimum planned flight profile.
GlueBall is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.