737 Fire Drill
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737 Fire Drill
Hi there, during a Sim. session. After takeoff there was a fire alarm on the left engine with fire warning switch light on, engine overheat light on, master fire warning lights on but…, NO fire bell. The crew carried on the Engine Fire Recall items and NNC, the engine was subsequently shutdown. The instructor later remarked that there was no need to carry on the fire drill since a visual fire alarm, with no bell should be disregarded. Can anyone clarify this, and if possible bring some technical data about it.
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The 737CL/NG use sensor elements for fire warning
Each element has three pressure switches and two resistors as a network, with resistance varying as function of temperature. One pressure switch
senses overheat, another senses fire and the third senses a loss of gas pressure (Fault).
There are always 2 elements to chech a area. Loop A and loop B.
The conditions of both loops are combinated in the detection unit as follows:
Copy/Paste out of 737CL AMM (737NG alike)
A fire is indicated as follows:
(1) The appropriate (engine 1 or engine 2) fire switch handle on the P8 control stand illuminates and unlocks.
(2) The master FIRE WARN lights on lightshield panel P7 illuminate.
(3) The fire bell sounds.
An overheat is indicated as follows:
(1) The appropriate engine overheat light - ENG 1 or ENG 2 OVERHEAT - on the P8 control stand illuminates.
(2) The master CAUTION and OVHT/DET lights on lightshield panel P7 illuminate.
A fault is indicated as follows:
(1) The FAULT light on the P8 control stand illuminates.
The bell may be silenced and FIRE WARN lights may be extinguished by pressing either FIRE WARN light or the BELL CUTOUT switch.
The master CAUTION and OVHT/DET lights may be extinguished by pressing either CAUTION light.
Fire switch, overheat, and fault lights remain illuminated until the fire, overheat, or fault is removed from the system.
So I think that the instructor is wrong.
If you have a Fire warning LT, you have a FIRE.
(BTW: You know that Bell is not U/S
)
But this is only the opinion of an Greesemonkey
Each element has three pressure switches and two resistors as a network, with resistance varying as function of temperature. One pressure switch
senses overheat, another senses fire and the third senses a loss of gas pressure (Fault).
There are always 2 elements to chech a area. Loop A and loop B.
The conditions of both loops are combinated in the detection unit as follows:
Copy/Paste out of 737CL AMM (737NG alike)
A fire is indicated as follows:
(1) The appropriate (engine 1 or engine 2) fire switch handle on the P8 control stand illuminates and unlocks.
(2) The master FIRE WARN lights on lightshield panel P7 illuminate.
(3) The fire bell sounds.
An overheat is indicated as follows:
(1) The appropriate engine overheat light - ENG 1 or ENG 2 OVERHEAT - on the P8 control stand illuminates.
(2) The master CAUTION and OVHT/DET lights on lightshield panel P7 illuminate.
A fault is indicated as follows:
(1) The FAULT light on the P8 control stand illuminates.
The bell may be silenced and FIRE WARN lights may be extinguished by pressing either FIRE WARN light or the BELL CUTOUT switch.
The master CAUTION and OVHT/DET lights may be extinguished by pressing either CAUTION light.
Fire switch, overheat, and fault lights remain illuminated until the fire, overheat, or fault is removed from the system.
So I think that the instructor is wrong.
If you have a Fire warning LT, you have a FIRE.
(BTW: You know that Bell is not U/S
)But this is only the opinion of an Greesemonkey
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IFixPlanes said:
But clearly a knowledgable greesemonkey all the same!
A fire warning with or without the bell MUST be treated as worst possible case, and therefore what you did Harry was correct. I'm afraid your simulator instructor, who may well have been trying to demonstrate some different point, has misled you on this one.
But this is only the opinion of an Greesemonkey
A fire warning with or without the bell MUST be treated as worst possible case, and therefore what you did Harry was correct. I'm afraid your simulator instructor, who may well have been trying to demonstrate some different point, has misled you on this one.
