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Old 7th Jun 1999, 03:25
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I have recently converted to a new type and can't find the parking brake. Can anyone help, it's the AS-355.
 
Old 7th Jun 1999, 09:59
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Skycop,
In your case delete all reference to park/wheel brakes and insert rotor brake. Hope this helps??
 
Old 7th Jun 1999, 13:27
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Boeing volume 1, normal procedures 02.02.19, under the parking procedure...when wheel chocks in place, release the park brake...guess individual airlines develope their own procedures as ramp conditions dictate.

the tires on the nations air in jeddah blew at 80 kts during the take-off roll, the fe commented on something to that effect, the takeoff was continued, and the gear retracted at some point after takeoff...witnessed the aftermath some 4 hrs later...big mess
 
Old 8th Jun 1999, 01:54
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Sozjot, thanks for the tip. Tried it today tho' and the roof mounted airconditioning unit stopped (and when I looked back later all the tyres were gone)
Seriously though, we wouldn't normally leave the brake on "park" after stopping the show as in our case the heat goes into the tail rotor shaft and main gearbox. However, if there's a very strong wind blowing we might choose to re-apply it.

[This message has been edited by Skycop (edited 07 June 1999).]
 
Old 10th Jun 1999, 02:10
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jetboy - my A340 FCOM3 doesn't have the reference you quote but 3.03.26 pg 1 says "Keep the parking brake on to reduce hydraulic leak rate in the brake accumulator"
Two different reasons for keeping the 'Bus brakes on - typical Airbus!
 
Old 9th Dec 2000, 01:54
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tired,on the page before 3.03.25 page 1 under parking ."-Ground contact establish.
Check chocks in place. do not leave the PARKING BRK ON if the ECAM is displaying BRAKES HOT message at parking".
 
Old 12th Dec 2000, 03:58
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I have to agree with Hikers post of 28 may which says it best.
Tired, don't blame Airbus for the difference in the FCOM. Each manual is produced for that particular airline and every Chief Pilot thinks he knows more than the manufacturer. This has been going on for years and for me is very frustrating. I tend to lean towards the manufacturers recomendations. After all they designed, built, flight tested, certified, and wrote manuals for the 'plane. Who then should know more about its operation? The Chief Pilot or the people who built it??????? There are just too many ways to operate the same airplane, which is CRAP !!! I think the FAA's, DOT's, & MOT's of this world should put a stop to that nonsense.
 
Old 15th Dec 2000, 01:07
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Gentlemen; Allthough Iīve just been hired in my first airliner pilotjob on the B727, I have been working around airplanes for 5 years now, including driving the pushback. I once had a Spanair MD80 in CPH, where the parkbrake was not set, a person on the ground took the chocks behind the mainwheel (he thought it wouldnīt matter because the chocks in front of the wheel would still prevent the plane to roll into the gate (read: forward) ) The result was that the plane started to roll backwards and rolled about 5 ft before the crew realised the plane was moveing. By luck nothing happend. I have seen many times how the crew go back into the cabin to sit down and have a cup of coffe or tea, and if some idi** comes along and remove the chucks, I donīt think the crew will realise the plane moveing, and we can scream to our ears fall of from the outside, you wonīt heard us anyway. So please, leave the parkingbrake on, when parked...!! Besides, I really donīt think the brakes of a modern airliner will suffer any damage. The brakes are there to be used, not to look at.

DP....

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Old 15th Dec 2000, 03:47
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Ironbutt57

Re the Nationair, 4 hours before the aftermath, please explain the 4 hours?? I always thought that he took off, blew the tire, got confused by ATC and then made his way back to landing........

Would you please correct me...

Thanks...

Mutt
 

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