Jeppesen plates and below ISA corrections.
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Jeppesen plates and below ISA corrections.
Do standard (non-customised) Jeppesen approach plates cater for low temperatures (below ISA)? i.e. do you have a lower limit temperature until when theycan be used in order to assure terrain clearance as per PAN-OPS or does the pilot ALWAYS have to correct the charted altitudes when temperature is below ISA?
Thanks for any info.
Thanks for any info.
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The short answer is: "no." Below ISA temps are NOT accounted for in the terrain clearance implied by given QNH-flown altitudes.
Yes, you do have to make your own corrections based on the table to which you allude.
Many exhaustive posts this topic in the PPRUNE archives by-the-way.
An excellent point to raise as the temps plunge. Merry Xmas, if applicable.
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Yes, you do have to make your own corrections based on the table to which you allude.
Many exhaustive posts this topic in the PPRUNE archives by-the-way.
An excellent point to raise as the temps plunge. Merry Xmas, if applicable.
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Applies indeed my friend... as I am in between portions of roast turkey and roast potatoes!... :-)
I raised the question because I was reading somewhere (I think it was a paper available on Bluecoat) that some new RNAV charts are now certified to give the required clearance to, say, a temperature of 15 below ISA (based on the characteristics/location of the airport) and only after that are pilots required to apply corrections.
Anyways, a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year to you.
I raised the question because I was reading somewhere (I think it was a paper available on Bluecoat) that some new RNAV charts are now certified to give the required clearance to, say, a temperature of 15 below ISA (based on the characteristics/location of the airport) and only after that are pilots required to apply corrections.
Anyways, a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year to you.
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I agree with bizjet. In a nutshell, if you "read" the minimum altitude (as from an approach chart or a map), you should/must be aware of the error and apply a correction. If you "hear" an altitude (as assigned by ATC) then you should fly it as assigned. Different countries have different methods of correcting assigned altitudes for cold weather, so if in doubt, ask.
On the RNAV approaches, the ones with which I am familiar say "Not Authorized below -15C." In other words, I think you have it backwards. The corrections should be made on those approaches until it drops below -15C, at which point it's NA.
I agree with bizjet. In a nutshell, if you "read" the minimum altitude (as from an approach chart or a map), you should/must be aware of the error and apply a correction. If you "hear" an altitude (as assigned by ATC) then you should fly it as assigned. Different countries have different methods of correcting assigned altitudes for cold weather, so if in doubt, ask.
On the RNAV approaches, the ones with which I am familiar say "Not Authorized below -15C." In other words, I think you have it backwards. The corrections should be made on those approaches until it drops below -15C, at which point it's NA.
