Engines Running
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Engines Running
Ok, you've loaded up all the passengers and baggage, and been pushed back. You then start both engines and are about to ask for taxi clearance when someone comes back and states that you have to get 1 person's bags off.
This was the scenario on Airport last night and it got me thinking...
When are you allowed to have 1 or both engines running, for instance when passengers are embarking / disembarking, when the food and water is being put on, or when baggage is being loaded / unloaded...
Who would contact the pilots about this?
I would be interested to hear the rules and your thoughts!
Happy Landings,
ZSB
This was the scenario on Airport last night and it got me thinking...
When are you allowed to have 1 or both engines running, for instance when passengers are embarking / disembarking, when the food and water is being put on, or when baggage is being loaded / unloaded...
Who would contact the pilots about this?
I would be interested to hear the rules and your thoughts!
Happy Landings,
ZSB
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No engines running during boarding pax or catering, etc.
Engines would only be started just before, during or just after push-back.
Pax count should have picked up the wondering SLF. Push-back would have then been delayed to offload bags.
ATC Ground will have relayed the message from QANTAS to return to stand to offload bags.
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No engines running during boarding pax or catering, etc.
Engines would only be started just before, during or just after push-back.
Pax count should have picked up the wondering SLF. Push-back would have then been delayed to offload bags.
ATC Ground will have relayed the message from QANTAS to return to stand to offload bags.
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All doors closed with engines running (supposedly JAR-conforming FOM).
Excepctions only if engine must be kept running, e.g. when APU U/S and no airstarter available (tail mounted engines only, so no danger of ingesting a baggage handler :-)
Handling of exceptions has to be coordinated between ground handling and captain, so I'd think it would at least require a headset connection.
In practice, they sometimes ask to open and usually get permission, even if no "special case" exist. On the props it's not really a problem with the baggage door far behind the wing and the engines not producing any thrust. As the guys around the airplane have to know how not to walk into running props anyway, I don't see a special danger in letting the re-load after engine start.
Excepctions only if engine must be kept running, e.g. when APU U/S and no airstarter available (tail mounted engines only, so no danger of ingesting a baggage handler :-)
Handling of exceptions has to be coordinated between ground handling and captain, so I'd think it would at least require a headset connection.
In practice, they sometimes ask to open and usually get permission, even if no "special case" exist. On the props it's not really a problem with the baggage door far behind the wing and the engines not producing any thrust. As the guys around the airplane have to know how not to walk into running props anyway, I don't see a special danger in letting the re-load after engine start.
