Didn't like the cross winds at NEMA-had two goes and then diverted, coming back for another go later!

I see a Polet An124 routed KAFW-CYQX-EGLL & arrived at Heathrow early this morning, flightplan gave RA82010 as the reg'.

It then departed at around 1225 as POT1039 to LIPZ.

How did ATC plan its departure as when i've seen them depart East Midlands, they usually have to sit on the runway about 5-7mins for the engines to heat to the correct temperature. I'm guessing this would severly disrupt the departures at Heathrow.

Fried Chicken

An 124 requested 4 mins on ruunway before departure, so to answer your question, we lost 4 minutes!

Cheers!

Did the 124 route out via Dover? I thought I saw one heading out near Kenley Aerodrome about 1230 or so, but didn't get a very good view!

I was inside a Garden Centre near Windsor today when the 124 came over. The noise was so extraordinary that I went outside immediately to see what it was, much to Mrs S's surprise.....

What is it about the 124's engines that require such unusual handling and make such a strange noise?

It looked to be headed towards DVR when I spotted it overhead Knole Park near Sevenoaks.

The An124 was filed via DVR but due to a local survey flight it didn't follow the initial SID, taking it on runway heading for a few miles before the turn to the south.

Cheers!

Thats 2x Polet 124s this year then! Unusual choice for LHR, was it a traffic stop? Odd that they would let this in for a tech stop.

I believe it was bringing in an engine or two for American Airlines.

I have a lot of questions
 

Hi
I would just like to know why a plane turning immediately after take off is such a big deal. Is it out of the norm for a plane to do such a thing?
Thanks in advance
Regards, Mohammed

Mo91.. It's because aircraft at many airports have to follow specific routes to reduce noise problems for local residents. If one does not follow the precise minimum noise route at Heathrow all hell breaks loose!!

Odd departures
 

Many many years ago when the French were being even more impossible than normal. A Britannia 737 got stuck at Manchester and was required at East Midlands, couldn't get a slot between all the tightly packed traffic from EDI, GLA, NCL etc so the ferry went special VFR not above 1,500' out of the TMA, bet the crew were still grinning at Castle Don.
Be lucky
David

Air force one at LHR?
 

Whilst just about to depart from t4 tonight I saw a 747 parking up at the royal suite, looked just like Air force 1. Didn't hear the callsign on the RT, anybody know who was on it?

Probably Condi Rice, I saw something in the news she was in Israel yesterday

It wouldnt have the call sign of Airforce One UNLESS Dubya was onboard.

It was USAF E-4B an Airborne Command Post, not a VC-25A which is the plane the President uses. Both are based on the B747-200.


She flew overhead LHR on Saturday morning in a C-32A from Andrews AFB direct TLV.

Serial was 73-1677, callsign Bust 48. Scheduled to depart this morning around 8am.

Et Voilà

http://eu.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/photos/small/2/5/7/0360752.jpg

BOAC

Thanks - that is the "target" which showed correctly when first posted. Don't know what happened after............:confused:

Edit: Me too! I went in to replace the image and it all started working normally - maybe it was a problem with my ISP's cache? Ah Well!

Posts on G-VIIL now reside in http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=251099

What aircraft is this?
 

Hi all

I have been lucky and been working on M4 a lot over the last 2 weeks, very close to Heathrow so get to see aircraft taking off. Now, I am getting to know if there is a 747 over my head, and if there is a smaller plane, but I also know when this plane goes over. It is a 'T-tail' type, engines at the back and is quite small (maybe smaller than an A319?) It makes a huge noise and I am sure is louder than a 747 and almost certainly louder than an A340. I would love to know what type it is and who the carrier is. And before someone says it, no I am not a bearded weirdy!, I am actually genuinely interested.
Also, does anyone have any tips for identifiying types of aircraft from the ground?
I thank you..

Probably an MD80 series aircraft.

http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/open.file?i...ext_id=1010686

Looks like it could be. Would this be a regional jet?

The MD80 is the last aircraft still operating into Heathrow with old-generation JT8D engines on it. I know they are the refanned -200 version of the engine but the rest of it is still old 1960s technology.

The two remaining substantial operators into Heathrow are Alitalia and SAS. The SAS ones are conspicuous even when at a significant altitude by their red-painted engines.

Do Alitalia still operate them into LHR? I can't say I've noticed any recently.

Alitalia MD-80s
 

Still operating about three flights a day, to Linate.

Rhys.

Thanks. I must remember to pay attention and stop doing the Times Crossword. :ugh:

Heathrow info website
 

For anyone interested in Heathrow "stuff"...
www.heathrowpictures.com :ok:

Cheers!

AT Lap tomorrow whats due in?
 

Is any thing due in tuesday I missed the BBJ last week!

Air JAMAICA A340 Low and Gear down
 

Anyone know why the Air Jam 16:00 from LHR seemed approx 1500ft/2000ft with Gear down OVER FELTHAM/APEX CORNER M3 area? Was banking left off 09R which was the take off runway.

Thanks
L

taking off??

Spotter query. Why did you post here?

Sorry if I offended anybody by posting in the incorrect Forum although yes I am at times a spotter I do hold a PPL and I am currently working at LHR.

Not all that uncommon. Just cooling the gear before retracting.

Correct. Informed ATC of his intention before departure.

I belive you are wrong, this is done to comply with the MEL.

DreamLand.. you said this

I belive you are wrong, this is done to comply with the MEL.

regarding this :Not all that uncommon. Just cooling the gear before retracting .

Avman is NOT wrong. He merely stated that leaving the gear down tocool the brakes is not uncommon, which it is not, so he is in fact correct is he not !!:}

How does leaving the gear down to cool brakes 'comply' with MEL??

With all do respect, please tell me how much experience you have in the Airbus, I am currently on the Airbus and we do not leave the gear down for cooling on the A321, maybe the big bus is different? :confused:

How would you cool red hot brakes then??:confused:

On the A320/321 I fly, we have two choices, turn on brake fans if fitted or wait for the temps to reduce on their own, on the small bus they don't heat up on the taxi out like on a wide body. Also, in the book it's called a takeoff limitation, we do not have the option to takeoff and let them dangle, now should we have a brake deactivated (brakes disconnected fo spotters), we do delay retraction and take the appropriate penalty, other similar MEL requirements also. My guess is that one or two of the brakes were capped off on the A340.