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Banana4321 24th Nov 2017 21:47


Originally Posted by slip and turn (Post 9967713)

Seems to be heading to East Midlands now. How it's going to get to Cardiff from there? Road?

ExXB 25th Nov 2017 13:48

Perhaps a curfew at Cardiff, it was zero dark thirty, or thereabouts? Although that would surprise me. Otherwise the company may have another shipment from EMA. Road Transport may indeed be the chosen method.

pax2908 28th Nov 2017 07:23

Some of you are probably reading "the other forums" (search for "deroutement cause dommages") but I copy some of the info found there (obviously, not official).
- ferry flight maybe for December 6th;
- maybe a/c will be under Airbus registration for that flight;
- it is mentioned that the 1st AF A380 3-eng ferry was in 2012, out of JFK.

oversteer 6th Dec 2017 15:01

About to taxi to the runway, not sure on callsign

e: Air France 371V
runway 26, wind 16020G30

archae86 6th Dec 2017 15:17

in the air
 
Flight Radar24 is tracking it in flight under AFR371V, enroute to CDG.

knarfw 6th Dec 2017 15:20

Just passed overhead on takeoff.

knarfw 6th Dec 2017 15:21

https://www.flightradar24.com/AFR371V/fc069bb

oldchina 6th Dec 2017 15:32

Over the coast at 35000 ft

procede 6th Dec 2017 15:39

Currently at 560 knots ground speed @ 37k. I'm guessing that means all four engines are operating?

knarfw 6th Dec 2017 15:48

They did full power run ups on both outboard engines after they brought it out of the hangar.

DaveReidUK 6th Dec 2017 16:05

That makes sense - there was never any subsequent confirmation of the 3-engined ferry scenario after that initial soundbite from an unnamed BEA investigator that Reuters initially quoted.

WHBM 6th Dec 2017 16:12

What a waste of about 300 posts here :)

DaveReidUK 6th Dec 2017 20:15

Just folks not letting the facts get in the way of a good story. :O

Aircraft landed at CDG a few moments ago.

G-CPTN 6th Dec 2017 20:39

Why not Toulouse?

davidjpowell 6th Dec 2017 20:43

Will they have kept it heated while it was stood? Must have been cold out there...

knarfw 6th Dec 2017 20:54


Originally Posted by davidjpowell (Post 9981152)
Will they have kept it heated while it was stood? Must have been cold out there...

It was hangared up until 2 days ago.

DaveReidUK 6th Dec 2017 21:04


Originally Posted by G-CPTN (Post 9981146)
Why not Toulouse?

As a general rule, manufacturers are good at designing and building aircraft, but they don't necessarily have skills and expertise in repairing them, at least not as much as airlines do.

While Airbus will no doubt be involved in developing any necessary repair schemes, AF will be better equipped to supply the manpower and other resources to accomplish the repairs.

tdracer 6th Dec 2017 21:09


Currently at 560 knots ground speed @ 37k. I'm guessing that means all four engines are operating?
Not necessarily - a 747 can happily cruise at 37k Mach .84 on 3 engines providing it's not too heavy (been there, done that during 747-8 flight test). I assume an A380 would be similarly capable.
Doing a high power run up of the replaced engine is more meaningful.

EDML 6th Dec 2017 22:14


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 9981192)
As a general rule, manufacturers are good at designing and building aircraft, but they don't necessarily have skills and expertise in repairing them, at least not as much as airlines do.

While Airbus will no doubt be involved in developing any necessary repair schemes, AF will be better equipped to supply the manpower and other resources to accomplish the repairs.


Well, the manufacturers have special repair teams for structural repair of stranded aircraft. That is done very often. Sometimes they do the whole work where the plane is stranded, sometimes they just get the aircraft repaired so that it can be ferried to some other facility.

wiggy 6th Dec 2017 22:24


Originally Posted by EDML (Post 9981285)
Well, the manufacturers have special repair teams for structural repair of stranded aircraft. That is done very often. Sometimes they do the whole work where the plane is stranded, sometimes they just get the aircraft repaired so that it can be ferried to some other facility.

Given everything else that goes on there I wonder if Airbus even have the space/hangarage at Blagnac...(? genuine question) it might well be more convenient for them to shuttle people as and if needed up to Paris and use AF facilities at CDG than to tie up AB resources and space at Toulouse.


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