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Memetic 19th Jul 2014 22:33

BOX 412 \ 3s412 has turned back (Sat 19th July)
 
A local site is Tweeting that flight 3S412 FRA to ORD has recently declared an emergency and turned back.

https://twitter.com/EssexWeather/sta...16231557627905

Wire_Mark 19th Jul 2014 22:41

Watching flight BOX412 on Flight radar
 
Sorry for my lameness in asking this, my flight radar app on my iPad popped up with a squawk. So I opened the app up to see, it was just off the coast of Scotland and performed a uturn. Was at FL320, it's currently at FL210 by Darlington. I was wondering why if it has done a u turn and has problems, why has it not gone to the nearest airport? If there is a problem, which is severe enough to turn round then why not land at the nearest airport?

Wire_Mark 19th Jul 2014 22:42

I just posted this also! I'm watching it now, why has it not landed at nearest airport ie Glasgow? It is currently over darlington

nathanroberts2K8 19th Jul 2014 23:13

Been watching him for the last hour, stayed at FL210 for a good hour only just gone to fl190. Stayed on squawk 7700 aswell, I can only presume he is going back to FRA?

flynerd 19th Jul 2014 23:22

And slow. Maybe on one engine?

nathanroberts2K8 19th Jul 2014 23:26

According to what someone put on twitter yes, 1 engine, but I would of thought on 1 engine he should have put it down in the UK ages ago?

Airbubba 19th Jul 2014 23:40


And slow. Maybe on one engine?
Hard to imagine even a freighter flying past that many suitable airports on one engine. Or, with an emergency of any sort.

Loss of pressurization perhaps with fuel burn back to EDDF enough to get down to landing weight? Still, would you press on all the way back to FRA at FL 190 wearing masks?

Or, loss of altimetry redundancy and inability to do RVSM? Would you squawk 7700?

Nav failures and unable MNPS? :confused:

The plane is now headed east, suddenly not going on a course back to Frankfurt. :eek:

Bealzebub 19th Jul 2014 23:45

FR24, the snack box for hungry imaginations! :bored:

nathanroberts2K8 19th Jul 2014 23:49

Or bored aircraft loonatics like myself :8

flynerd 19th Jul 2014 23:54

So now where is he going? Leipzig?

Does Frankfurt have a curfew.

Ya! Fliegen est Verbotten at night!

nathanroberts2K8 19th Jul 2014 23:57

Descending again now

AN2 Driver 19th Jul 2014 23:57

It does, but for a plane on 7700? Looks like he only diverted from his flight path near Duisburg and now passed Warburg VOR.

Flying low, slow but not landing immediately, cracked windshield?

SummerLightning 19th Jul 2014 23:59

Leipzig-Halle is one of Aerologic's home bases. Appears to be heading there.

SummerLightning 20th Jul 2014 00:14

Landed 0014z

nathanroberts2K8 20th Jul 2014 00:15

Good work. Looked a bit heavy from my lay persons view, 172 kts at 500 ft.

Hotel Tango 20th Jul 2014 09:24

Wire_Mark:

1) For your information an aircraft turning back does not mean that the problem is serious enough to divert to the nearest airport. I was on a KLM flight which developed a problem 2.5 hrs into my flight to YVR. We went all the way back to AMS.

2) If it was an engine issue, it may well have been shut down as a precaution and not actually "failed". The a/c is perfectly capable of flying on one dong and it makes economic and logistical sense to return to the company's maintenance base if all else looks good.

Mr Angry from Purley 21st Jul 2014 17:33

Does every turn back warrant an explanation. The only difference was there were no complaints from the punters...Flight departed again after crew rest. Non event.:D

DaveReidUK 21st Jul 2014 18:21


The only difference was there were no complaints from the punters...
Strangely, Aerologic rarely get any complaints from their passengers ... :O


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