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bandit1200n 7th Feb 2014 20:24

BAW197 Return to LHR today
 
Earlier today I saw a 747 in an unusual location and at an unusual altitude. I tracked it on Flightradar24 and it showed up as flight BAW197 from LHR to IAH.

When I first saw it it had only been airborne for 15 mins, and I tracked it over Essex and watched it circle over the Essex Coast for some time. It then returned to LHR.

Does anyone have any idea why it returned. It seemed unusual to me, and I am interested in what caused it to return.

Cheers

DX Wombat 7th Feb 2014 22:32

Flightradar24 does not always get the flight details correct. Watch carefully and you will see a track going from A to B but the details given clearly indicate that FR24 thinks it is going from B to C, all because some flight plan details are not updated.

phiggsbroadband 7th Feb 2014 23:08

Yes I saw it also, BA197 G-CIVI, it was one of only a few 747s that I was filtering.
It did 2 orbits over Leighton Buzzard, then 4 orbits over Bunham on Crouch, at 10,000ft before returning to LHR. Its destination should have been IAH, Houston.


Apparently it left LHR again at 15.22 gmt, and will arrive in IAH at 18.51 cst.
I can not get any further details from FR24.

bandit1200n 8th Feb 2014 00:30

It certainly was strange to see a 747 that low and the fact it took off and then circled for a while before returning the LHR just wasn't right.

I am intrigued as to why it did it.

bandit1200n 8th Feb 2014 00:32

Thanks. That's useful to know.

llondel 8th Feb 2014 01:49

Did the captain forget his toothbrush? :E

KelvinD 8th Feb 2014 06:26

Not the toothbrush. He forgot his Blue Riband!

wiggy 8th Feb 2014 06:45

Kelvin

I had wry smile when I heard about this - it looks like you were on to something after all when you started that other thread........:uhoh:

DaveReidUK 8th Feb 2014 07:11


Apparently it left LHR again at 15.22 gmt, and will arrive in IAH at 18.51 cst.
Again?

15:22 was when it was originally airborne from LHR. Following its return, the flight was cancelled.

crispey 8th Feb 2014 09:06

It dumped fuel to enable a return to Heathrow.

bandit1200n 8th Feb 2014 11:54

But the $million question is why did it have to return.........

KelvinD 8th Feb 2014 16:37

It turns out it was "broken". Wiggy; I too smiled when I saw this one. I hadn't set out to look for BA misery; I just happened to be at Heathrow when the Mexico City flight went round last week. Of course, when this happens a second time, it tends to get your attention. And then when a second aircraft from the same family, has to go around you tend to think "Oh dear! Not a happy day!"

champair79 8th Feb 2014 17:08

Fully open outflow valve due to a dodgy sensor. Fault was repaired fairly quickly but the crew were going to go out of hours and the flight would have arrived after the IAH curfew. Therefore it was cancelled and the pax dispersed onto other services.

Champ

bandit1200n 8th Feb 2014 17:14

Thanks Champair. That's satisfied the curious side of my nature :D

phiggsbroadband 8th Feb 2014 17:57

FR24 had G-CIVI as landed in IAH at 18:51cst, and not doing the return flight IAH-LHR today.... Just shows that you can't believe everything you see on FR24.

bandit1200n 8th Feb 2014 18:04

Strange it showed it as completing the flight. I watched it land back at LHR on FR24.

crispey 9th Feb 2014 06:33

Phiggs,do you mean the arrivals/departure boards on FR24?I haven't seen any "radar" traces that show that aircraft since.


Just curious as to how FR24 works in that way.

DaveReidUK 9th Feb 2014 09:30


Just shows that you can't believe everything you see on FR24.
FlightRadar24 is still showing the flight as having actually landed at IAH, though the ATA has changed to 00:51:

Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker!

I suspect that, in the case of US-bound flights, FR24 may be cheating and attempting to predict an ATA based on either the flightplan in the FAA/ASDI system, or possibly based on the ATD and anticipated flight time.

Either way, it's a bit naughty. :=

phiggsbroadband 9th Feb 2014 14:08

G-CIVI just taken off from LHR at 14:57, now at 6000ft over High Wycombe.
And 14,000ft over Milton Keynes, going North... Looks Ok so far.


Ooops... No it is G-BYGF doing the BAW197 run to Houston IAH.

bandit1200n 9th Feb 2014 17:38

So what is the best radar tracker?


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