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bazzab68 25th Nov 2012 17:31

Concorde returning??
 
All

Maybe interesting to look out for but on the 9th year anniversary of its final flight the Save Concorde group are tweeting all celebrities with a known association of the craft that they have an important announcement coming

@Save_Concorde: @Lord_Sugar would you like to see #Concorde back in the skies? We have some exciting news tomo, on the 9th anniv of her final flight.

Interesting but highly implausible?

Regards

Barry

Tableview 25th Nov 2012 17:43


highly implausible
About the same likelihood of this happening as of the Pope falling pregnant.

A great pity though.

jackieofalltrades 25th Nov 2012 18:59

A very funny analogy!

But yes, sadly extremely unlikely to ever happen. I would love to see Concorde fly again, but I seriously doubt it would ever happen.
I would postulate that the announcement would be to do with the location of one of the retired aircraft being moved, but I have no actual knowledge of that.

Flightmech 25th Nov 2012 20:10

Concorde returning??
 
Permit-to-fly (Complex Aircraft) :-) we wish!

FG_data 26th Nov 2012 08:24

9 years ago
 
Looked like this, weather was just as bad as today!

BAC Concorde, G-BOAF, British Airways (BA / BAW)

Evanelpus 26th Nov 2012 13:49


@Save_Concorde: @Lord_Sugar would you like to see #Concorde back in the skies? We have some exciting news tomo, on the 9th anniv of her final flight.
Well, it's tomo so has anyone heard anything?

Meccano 26th Nov 2012 14:47

Mr.Sugar - give me ONE MILLION DOLLARS, and I will make it FLY!!

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Tableview 26th Nov 2012 17:51


Dear member,

9th Anniversary of Concorde's last flight

Monday marks the 9th Anniversary of Concorde's last flight, from London Heathrow to Filton. The Concorde, Alpha Fox, was flown by Captain Les Brodie. When we informed Les of our plan to relocate a Concorde to London's South Bank, this is what he said, in support of our project.

"I think an easily accessible Concorde exhibit in London would help remind people of what we had achieved, and seeing it may inspire someone to do it again, so you have my endorsement."

£36 Million Investment in Concorde

A private, British Investor is backing two Club Concorde projects, in London and Paris. This millionaire businessman was so impressed with our Concorde for London business plan, that he asked us to organise a similar plan for Paris. As such, we now need two Concordes.

We have been in discussions with the Intrepid Museum in New York regarding the possible relocation of their Concorde, Alpha Delta, to London. If successful, this Concorde would be transported intact, by sea, directly through Tower Bridge, to the Pool of London, and on to the South Bank. Ideally, this would coincide with the 10th Anniversary of Concorde's last flight, on 26th November, 2013.

We have been made aware of the recent arrival of the Space Shuttle Enterprise at Intrepid and the subsequent reduction in the number of daily tours of Concorde. As such, we are in the process of making an improved donation of US$4 Million / £2.5 Million to the Intrepid Museum, for the relocation of their Concorde to London. This donation is to compensate for the loss of Concorde revenue over the next decade.

British Airways retain ownership of their Concordes and would have to approve any relocation plans. However, details of our Business plan, plus proof of funding, have already been submitted to the main board of British Airways.


The first concern many of you will have is the absence of a roof, protecting Concorde from the elements. Well, apart from the fact that Concorde is used to extremes of speed and temperature, the answer is that we have been advised to make a separate, later application for what will be a clear, glass roof. We will be in a very special part of London, which includes a World Heritage site, just across the river, so established views must not be obstructed. Before we get to that stage, the Concorde will be surrounded by a curved, clear glass security screen which will act as a wind breaker and shelter visitors from the elements.

This project is subject to stringent Planning regulations and we have taken advice from numerous interested parties. Most of the parties we have approached are favourable towards our project. We anticipate the planning process will take around six months and cost around £500,000.

There are restrictions on commercial activities on such a platform, so the lower deck will be confined to the storage of maintenance equipment and supplies. As such, all commercial activities will operate from our two riverboats, one of which will be moored between the platform and the new landing stage, which will form part of the Planning application. This landing stage will be open to the general public, as well as Concorde visitors. The idea is that this will help to alleviate the river traffic congestion along this stretch of the Thames.

The riverboats will contain our booking office as well as a memorabilia shop, aircrew presentation area, plus restaurants and bars. One of the riverboats will serve Concorde style cuisine and cater for both corporate and special events. We calculate that this project will generate around 160 new jobs, including many for young people. We envisage a core team of experienced former airline professionals who will pass on their expertise to a new generation.

On the Paris front we are in discussions with several parties about the relocation of a French Concorde to a new display site in the Capital City.

Return to Flight Project - Potential £40 Million Investment

Since the last flight of Concorde in 2003, this has been the dream of Concorde lovers around the World. Both Air France and British Airways had decided there was no commercially viable future for their Concorde fleets. We have it on good authority that the real killer blow for Concorde was not the tragic accident in Paris, but 9/11 and the deaths of around 40 major clients, who were also decision makers on which of their colleagues were allowed to fly on Concorde.

As such, the only way back is as a private, heritage aircraft financed by corporate sponsorship, backed by a viable business plan. We believe we have such a plan, and we already have potential investment of £40 Million to back it up. Our Concorde for London project was oversubscribed to the tune of £40 Million, and we are confident of convincing both investors to back our Return to Flight project.

It will take cross-Channel co-operation to get a Concorde back in the air. As such, our London and Paris projects put us in an ideal situation as they involve technical expertise from both former Air France and British Arways staff. As such, we plan to run an investigation into the technical viability of returning a private, heritage Concorde to flight, such an investigation to run in parallel with our London and Paris projects.

Best regards,

The Club Concorde Team
www.clubconcorde.co.uk
It will take cross-Channel co-operation to get a Concorde back in the air.

... that, I fear, is the weakest link.



LBIA 26th Nov 2012 19:12

Also UK based "Save Concorde group" released the following statement and video this morning regarding Concorde...

Save Concorde Group » News


Concorde and Return to Flight

Posted 25th November 2012

November 26th 2012 marks exactly 9 years since the last Concorde flight, when Concorde G-BOAF (Alpha Fox) touched down at Filton Airfield in Bristol, UK. In all that time, Save Concorde Group (SCG) has campaigned tirelessly to promote the best interests of all the remaining Concorde aircraft – and, to continue our campaign to return Concorde to the air.

Concorde is the jewel in the crown of British and French engineering prowess – yet look what has been allowed to become of her. This magnificent machine, still state of the art, is now merely a museum piece or worse – an outdoor relic subject to the elements, slowly sliding into ignominy.

SCG has been closely involved in the plans to create a new aviation museum centred on Concorde G-BOAF at Filton, but as yet the plans are still not finalized. Chairman Ben Lord makes the following comment: “Another year, another anniversary and our beloved Alpha-Foxtrot still remains on the ground, with no roof over her. With Filton Airfield imminently due for closure, it is imperative that the green light is given, preferably to our low-cost proposal, for this aeroplane to finally be in the undercover museum environment that she thoroughly deserves.”

SCG’s primary objective, however, is to get Concorde back in the air. We have been advised by Concorde experts that there remains no technological reason why Concorde could not once again take to the skies. SCG, along with our partners in France (Olympus593), continues its fight to get this iconic aircraft back into the skies, and we will not give up the fight.

In the words of Dr David Jones, SCG Communications Director: “This anniversary is a crucial time to stress our on-going commitment to return a Concorde to flight in a heritage capacity. There remains no technological reason why this aircraft cannot fly again, and 2013 sees the 10-year contracts agreed with the retirement museums expire. With this in mind, and given the earnest dedication shown by SCG thus far to the preservation of Concorde, we would call for new discussions with all relevant parties to consider the release of an aircraft with a view to returning it to a flightworthy state.”

Today we are releasing a specially commissioned video, as part of a wide-ranging publicity campaign, in advance of the 9th anniversary of Concorde’s retirement.

Concorde - Time to Return to Flight (RTF) - YouTube

We continue to push for our main stated aim: to return a Concorde to the skies in a heritage capacity so that the world can once again marvel at the unique aircraft we created – and the legacy it left for aviation in general.

Please help join our fight by disseminating the video as widely as possible, joining our Facebook site and keeping up the pressure on everyone and anyone who can help to get this beautiful aircraft off the ground and back into the skies.

We have the engineering expertise standing by – we just need YOUR help and YOUR support.

742-xx 26th Nov 2012 19:48

Best of luck to all concerned.
I really hope they get somewhere with this.
I went to see Concorde on the Intrepid shortly after it had opened to the public.
It was in a shocking state - idiots had signed their names on the cabin walls - disgraceful.
Bring her back home - where she belongs.

Jarvy 26th Nov 2012 20:49

The Concorde on the Intrepid is no longer open to the public to just wander through because of this. It can only be viewed internally on a paid for tour.
See actually still belongs to BA and is there due to Mrs Thatcher (long story).

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 26th Nov 2012 21:11

Another farce like the money-swilling Vulcan. Meanwhile, hospital doctors are earning a pittance for 80 hour weeks. Some people want to get their priorities organised.

Groundloop 27th Nov 2012 07:32


We have been advised by Concorde experts that there remains no technological reason why Concorde could not once again take to the skies.
There definition of "Concorde experts" must be rather strange then.

Planemike 27th Nov 2012 10:34


Best of luck to all concerned.
I really hope they get somewhere with this.
I went to see Concorde on the Intrepid shortly after it had opened to the public.
It was in a shocking state - idiots had signed their names on the cabin walls - disgraceful.
Bring her back home - where she belongs.
What ever for? We already have a surfeit of Concordes in the UK, six by my counting.

Discorde 27th Nov 2012 10:52

There is a (fictitious) Concorde still flying, part of the Rebel Airways Historic fleet (see p5).

DaveReidUK 27th Nov 2012 11:15


Another farce like the money-swilling Vulcan.
The (hypothetical) cost of getting Concorde back in the air would make the cost of the Vulcan project look like small change ...


Return to Flight Project - Potential £40 Million Investment
That wouldn't even get the wheels off the ground on a set of jacks. :O

aviate1138 27th Nov 2012 11:16

It will obviously be for Chemtrailing at high altitudes! :rolleyes:

Phileas Fogg 27th Nov 2012 11:19

One of the two Toulouse based Concordes was rumoured to perform a fly-by during the opening ceremony of the 2012 Paris Olympics.

Now which nation is responsible for putting paid to that I wonder? :)

TurboTomato 27th Nov 2012 13:25

The one that realised that was a non-existent event?

2 sheds 27th Nov 2012 13:39


Another farce like the money-swilling Vulcan. Meanwhile, hospital doctors are earning a pittance for 80 hour weeks. Some people want to get their priorities organised.
Thanks, HD - I thought that I was the only one to hold such unpopular views! I believe that you have to remember that flying the Vulcan is very educational - it teaches youngsters all about the cold war and - like all the museums nowadays - contributes to part of Key Stage somethingorother Gobledegook.

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