Big Black Fence At MAN AVP
 

Does anyone know whats with this fence at MAN AVP?

Was there today and by time this is finished, no-one will be able to sit down any more and watch aircraft, never mind take any pictures.

I asked in the Burger Hut and they guy said it was due to some new rules.

What rules have come into force that are going to destroy the AVP?

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Does whoever thought this up have any idea of how this will affect the number of people going there?

Whats the point if you cant see anything?:ugh::ugh::ugh::=:=


It used to be a beautiful place to plane spot, now it looks like Colditz going up.

All they need now is a few watchtowers to go up and guards with machine guns and it will be perfect - NOT!

@ donnlass i think the veiwing mounds are to be raised to compensate for the new fence.:ok:

Aye but that would look daft and what about when there are loads of people say at an event, like the first time the A380 arrived.

Not everyone can fit on those mounds, how can they fit thousands of people at once?

People want to sit on the flat areas at the tables and watch, my partner had perfected taking photos through the fence of planes and we are both disabled now to an extent and cant really stand for that long.

And for people sitting in the restaurant and watching? It wont be possible.

Ok bring chairs I know but that isnt always convenient.

I can still see numbers plummeting of visitors once this is finished.:(:ouch:

The DFT have regulated that fences need to be able to survive a 45 ton truck being rammed into them.

Its not something that only MAN have dreamt up to annoy the people using the viewing area.

It is all about Customer Care and Passenger Safety! :=

Oh I know its not MAN but some Civil Service pencil pusher with nothing else better to do.


Honestly!!!!


As long we're safe, but we cant see.





Thanks for that everyone.:ok::ok:

Appreciate your replies:O:O


Mmmm many trucks tend to go ramming at MAN?


I had a look at a 45 ton truck on google and they look just a bit bigger than the push back trucks.

Might someone go amok in one of those?

Maybe.

I suspect it's not the weight of the truck per say but what it may be carrying that worries them.

Ginsters pies for instance, I see plenty of trucks hauling them, i mean are they VATable or not , hot, cold, cooling, warming at home aaargrgrgrgrgghhgghg. Safer to just ban the lot of them and build a bloody big fence.

You might have expected someone somewhere would find a different solution to stopping a 45 ton truck that didn't obscure the view. It is a while since I visited the MAN AVP but I would have thought that a concrete crash barrier could easily perform the same function without blocking peoples view. Is it too much to ask for someone think outside the box in a way that keeps all parties happy?

I don't think any fence would stop a 45 tonne truck and why bother when you could crash through a Crash Gate.. designed for Fire Vehicles to crash through!

Some of the larger pushback trucks can weigh 70 tonnes! :D

I was going to suggest a victorian HA-HA

funny you should say that srobarts, i was up there the other week and they were putting in a concrete crash barrier between the carpark and the grass area.:confused:

- love the idea - one problem is to find one jobsworth who a) knew what it was and b) could see how effective it would be!

- so did someone have a vision and a jobsworth also do what he was told?

And all that razor wire over the top.

Whats all that about?

Is the big bad 45 tonner going to climb over it?

Without getting into it the fence has to have a certain standard.

Its fine mesh is so that it takes longer to cut through ie more strands need to be clipped.

The razor wire is obviously there to stop folk just climbing over the top.

I have seen "them" go through a fence like that, to be honest they are pissing in the wind if they think its going to stop anyone with a bit of training who really wants to get in.

It will though however stop anyone that wants to make say a demonstration or is having mental health problems.

I would have guessed the 45 ton truck was set because of an intelligence operation that the ramming a 45 ton lorry through was the method of entry. Similar to the fluids thing for carry on bags. They found out someone was planning to use liquid explosives so had to do something about it.

MAN have always seemed to promote the viewing areas and seem to include them in there plans.

I for one hope this continues, we have usually completed the taxi checks by the firestation and always wave back to the kids if they wave as we taxi past.

If it's so vital to stop 45 tonne trucks crashing through UK airport fences, why is it not necessary for the same defences to be in place in airports across many European countries?

The UK mantra of "security is paramount" comes to mind.

Witness the restriction on drop offs in front of airport terminals, which simply aren't required at other major airports across Europe.

Every time the UK takes knee jerk reactions, the terrorists win.

ATNotts.......................

Couldn't agree more but the politicians and those at the top: feel they have done something, think they look better and consider they have protected us. In the meantime freedoms of the individual have been eroded. Does that bother them? Not in the least.

Planemike

Funy thing, I saw a fence replaced recently at XYZ which was taller but without the horrible mesh. Won't say where but it's next to a road at a busier airport than MAN......

Super Fence
 

Oh so that's what the APD increase is for!!

Digging a trench would have been cheaper, I'd have thought.

Prob scared someone would fall down it.