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ATC Watcher 19th Jun 2011 17:57

Bad day for Airbus/EADS in le Bourget
 
Today their A380 hit a building while being taxied around , dammaging the right wing, most probably this aircraft planned to make flight displays will be grounded for the rest of the show.

Earlier they had announced that their 2nd star, the A400M has engine problems and will not fly either.

Gulf4uk 19th Jun 2011 20:30

oooooops
 
They will have to Wait till Farnborough 2012 show plenty of Egg on Face. Tonight i bet Boeing are laughing there heads off .

PICTURE POSTED This picture of the A380 at le Bourget clearly shows the exte... on Twitpic

Rollingthunder 19th Jun 2011 23:44

Can you say "TOO LARGE" ?

FlamantRose 20th Jun 2011 00:20

The A380 will not fly at the Paris Air Show
 
The A380 will not fly during the Paris Air Show owing to an incident while being towed. The starboard wing hit a building. Small damage to the wing tip but aircraft AOG for the show.

http://s.tf1.fr/mmdia/i/33/8/a380-bo...a_1902.jpg?v=1

crippen 20th Jun 2011 00:55

"Trop grand"? :p

aviate1138 20th Jun 2011 07:55

Bet this happened after a typical French "liquid enlivened lunch". :rolleyes:

AndoniP 20th Jun 2011 10:37


Tonight i bet Boeing are laughing there heads off
Yeah, let's all laugh at Airbus because their aircraft can't be towed properly... hilarious.

:ugh::suspect:

barit1 20th Jun 2011 11:58

But Airbus will make money selling spare wingtips. :}

Topspotter 20th Jun 2011 12:15

Boeing laughing at airbus?... doubt it, boeing im sure know all to well "sh$t happens"

Ian Corrigible 20th Jun 2011 13:19


A nearby building with the name "Embraer" emblazoned on the side showed signs of the collision
Confirmation that Embraer is aggressively going after Airbus! :E

Still, a silver lining for spotters at the show: Airbus Borrows Korean's A380 For Displays After Mishap

SKS777FLYER 20th Jun 2011 13:22

At least the 380 used it's right wingtip to contact the Embraer building, while it's sister 380 used its' left wingtip to contact an Embraer aircraft at JFK.:):p

JimmyTAP 20th Jun 2011 15:39

Would that be the Embraer CRJ that it hit at JFK?

ChristiaanJ 20th Jun 2011 16:54

It was a Bombardier RJ that got hit at JFK.

Still, moving the Hippo around still is wrought with difficulties, even at home, isn't it?

SKS777FLYER 20th Jun 2011 17:27

whoops, my bad. Those pesky RJ's and small buildings, they all look so much alike.:uhoh:

robertbartsch 20th Jun 2011 17:54

....the plane is NOT too big, however, the wings are too wide.

It is a shame there are not more commerical aircraft manufacturors..... this would serve all better...

JFZ90 20th Jun 2011 18:09


They will have to Wait till Farnborough 2012 show plenty of Egg on Face. Tonight i bet Boeing are laughing there heads off .

PICTURE POSTED This picture of the A380 at le Bourget clearly shows the exte... on Twitpic
Its only a scratch.....

...it looks like it is parked on the grass - isn't it a bit heavy for that, or is it just an illusion?

avionic type 20th Jun 2011 18:11

Will the towing crew be redeployed to the line at the French equivalent of the Job Centre ? Haven't Airbus started to make spares for the 380 like wing tips? we wait with bated breath, but will not hold it for long.:ugh::ugh::ugh:

JimmyTAP 20th Jun 2011 18:30


It was a Bombardier RJ that got hit at JFK.
Really?

Is that a Bombardier CRJ?



I realized it was CRJ - I was only messin'

Count Niemantznarr 20th Jun 2011 20:01

Well you won't see Boeing demonstrate its 747-8.

Unlike Airbus which can fly its aircraft accurately close to the stall (when pitot tubes are functioning properly), Boeing are scared that competition between test pilots could end up with one of their babies spearing in.

Perhaps then Airbus aircraft are inherently safer.

Gonzo 20th Jun 2011 20:14

Where's Shell Management claiming that Airbus obviously didn't have a safety case to operate from Le Bourget?

dwshimoda 20th Jun 2011 21:07

Gonzo...
 
..love it!

ChristiaanJ 20th Jun 2011 21:13


Originally Posted by robertbartsch (Post 6525428)
....the plane is NOT too big, however, the wings are too wide.

Robert, let's be honest...
The A380 DOES fit into the "ICAO box", and Airbus does NOT have a monopoly of smashing wingtips....
Just their bad luck doing it twice recently on highy-publicised occasions.

Lets hope the LBG ground crew takes better care of the Korean Air Hippo that AB has borrowed for the demos....

AKAAB 20th Jun 2011 21:33

The French have stated that the 380 had the right of way and the building was at fault. :p

flydive1 20th Jun 2011 22:23

How is this Airbus fault if the aircraft was being towed, as it appears?

ChristiaanJ 20th Jun 2011 22:41

flydive1,
What happened to your sense of humour?

flydive1 20th Jun 2011 22:52

Did not realised that what you posted was a joke, sorry.

My comment was mostly directed to the one that think that Airbus will be full of red faces

Groundloop 21st Jun 2011 08:43

The Embraer building is a temporary building put up for the show. Was it erected in slightly the wrong place ie too close to the taxiway?

flydive1 21st Jun 2011 10:23


Even still it's clearly meant as a jokey comment, no need to get het up..
Hey, sorry guys, I sure did not want to upset anyone asking a simple question.

You should not get your knickers in a twist just because someone doesn't laugh at your jokes, maybe all it should tell you is that you should keep your day job;)

Again I apologize for having offended you

barit1 21st Jun 2011 13:43

In my jurisdiction, buildings ALWAYS have right of way. :uhoh:

http://o2.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dim...7490515ed46b6c

Halton Brat 21st Jun 2011 13:48

Though I understand that this was a towing incident, does the A380 have an external camera fit/Flt Deck screen? Looks as tho' the Nav Lt housing would be an ideal location.......you can have this kit on a motorcycle now.........:=

HB

baselb 21st Jun 2011 13:58

As I understand it, the building had stopped short...

Opsbeatch 21st Jun 2011 14:17

...but surely it was the building's fault for not telling the tower it wasn't clear...:E

OB

ChristiaanJ 21st Jun 2011 14:23

Halton Brat,
Did you miss the story of the earlier episode at JFK ?
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4485...ishap-jfk.html

The camera issue was discussed in detail, and yes, the Hippo does have several cameras, that can be shown on cockpit displays, but there are none in the wingtips.

CJ

airsound 21st Jun 2011 14:27

I just watched the Korea Air A380 do its customary display in the hands of Airbus test pilots. The display includes the extraordinary manoeuvre, called 'circonflex', where it does a TOGA climbing turn at near max aoa (16º-ish), with stick full back, and then, on the far side of the field, they select flight idle, put the gear down and 'bunt' the aircraft from about 25º pitch up to 15º pitch down. Apparently it goes to about 0.3g during the manoeuvre.

Sad to say, the commentators were busy talking about range, passenger numbers, sales figures, and other technical details, so they weren't able to point out to the spectators what was happening. But it still looked fantastic.

airsound

KeysCapt 22nd Jun 2011 15:54

This was not a towing incident, the aircraft was taxiing under its own power, and the Airbus position is, the flight crew was on a taxiway assigned by the ground controller. (Thereby implying that the fault belongs to ATC, not the crew)

The tug in the photo is after the fact.

d&b 22nd Jun 2011 18:27

airbus 380
 
give it a rest! **** happens!!!!! accidents happen!!! maybe you lot need to go and stop slagging others off. And no I am not an employee of Boeing, Airbus, Embraer or any one else. Just getting fed up with all the complete vomit that is appearing against all the builders.

Daysleeper 22nd Jun 2011 18:49


Bad day for Airbus/EADS in le Bourget
In the old days of airshows a "bad day" for a manufacturer would involve destroyed aircraft and large amounts of death. By comparison this is just a minor glitch.

Yankee Whisky 22nd Jun 2011 20:04

parked on grass ??
 

This shows it is parked on a weathered and cracked asphalt surface

ChristiaanJ 22nd Jun 2011 21:33

KeysCapt,
I was told it was a towing accident. If you have a source for it being any different, let us know.

Oh, and, d&b, I'm not trying to slag off anybody....
Just waiting for another tractor driver smashing the 747-8 or the Dreamliner into another 'pavilion'.....

CJ

Rollingthunder 23rd Jun 2011 05:27

Aircraft has snuck out of Le Bourget under cover of darkness to Toulouse for repairs. They hope to fix it quickly and get it back to airshow.


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