747 lowish over Wimbledon
At about 0930 this morning, heard loud engine sounds, just caught a glimpse of a 747 northbound, looked less then 2000'. Quite odd, we're about 10nm from LHR..just a repositioning go around or a less than perfect CDA?
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I can confirm the same, saw it too. The loud sound of the engines approaching made me wonder if there was about to be a ......., but the 747 flew over, banked, lowered it's undercarriage and seemed to be joining 27L without further incident. I thought that it was a ferry from LGW to LHR to be honest, but nevertheless it gave me a fright, we're not used to them that low in these gentle parts.
SHJ |
Saw him outbound out of Heathrow at about 1500 feet not climbing, obviously returned to Heathrow. According to flightradar24 it was BAW117 to New York
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Climbed to 1500ft then descended to 1300ft (1200ft agl) then back up to 1800ft while turning downwind.
Casper - live aircraft tracking Reset date to 2/10 and time to 09.20. BA117 gets airborne from 27R at 09.20:38. Hold arrow over aircraft to see altitude. |
any identifiable livery ?
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I think the clue is in BAW...
It's good to know you all keep a close eye on what happens at LHR...I'll be careful where I drop my gear in future;) |
I'll be careful where I drop my gear in future |
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Wouldn`t it be overweight on landing if planning to do such a long flight?
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It's one of BA's shorter flights for the 747! Possibly a bit 'overweight' if they didn't dump fuel, but procedures exist to land 'overweight' anyway.
Stopping is not an issue, it's just that engineering checks have to be carried out if an overweight landing is made. |
Should have sent for Larry Grayson.
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BBC News - BA flight to New York in London emergency landing
Just waiting for the Daily Mail's version - undoubtedly will be in a similar vein to their recent outrageous shock-horror-end-of-the-world 'reporting' on the Delta 4951 gear-up landing. "Disaster averted over London !!! - Passengers screamed in terror as the hero pilot wrestled with the controls and tried to regain control of the small flashing light. Hundreds of lives saved... house prices rise again etc..." :yuk: |
What a shame it is a Saturday as that means there were no (busy) schools for the pilot to avoid.
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But maybe a field of cricket players or a hospital?
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Yes, but it did skim over the top of shopping centres packed with thousands of Saturday morning shoppers who were screaming in horror as the stricken jet plunged ever closer to the ground. They could clearly see the panic stricken faces of the thousands of passengers who were helplessly trapped in their seats as the pilot wrested with the joystick to bring the massive Airbus Jumbo Jet under control.
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New Daily Mail sensationalist based on bollox campaign
Close the airports near cities - simples ;-)
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Emergency landing?
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saw the b747 when i was ploding the streets in southfields what a great site banking to the left wished i had a camera now.....
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I heard (from an aviation professional who lives on the approach) that one of the doors was actually open |
It's good to know you all keep a close eye on what happens at LHR...I'll be careful where I drop my gear in future SHJ |
I heard (from an aviation professional who lives on the approach) that one of the doors was actually open |
"faulty light"?...for a door warning? on a 744? :mad:
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Residents watch as BA flight to New York forced into London emergency landing (From Your Local Guardian)
A jumbo jet forced into an emergency landing was spied flying "alarmingly low" over the skies of south London this morning. Residents have described how they were woken by the "deafening noise" of the British Airways jet holding 296 passengers heading back in to Heathrow just after 9.30am. She said: "I heard a plane coming but suddenly it was much louder than usual. I rushed out and saw it and it was alarmingly low in the sky. "You could see it was a British Airways flight. That's how close it was." Rowena To, from Wimbledon Park, said: "We heard this deafening noise. We ran to the window . Everyone was watching from the other houses and other people had gone into the street. "The level that it was flying, everyone was really worried about what might be happening." |
BA 747 in emergency landing LHR - 1400 today
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Thanks G-BPED - News takes time to reach us here in the backwoods of Europe :ok::ok:
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Not a "Hostie having a quick ciggie" but an Ex Ryanair passenger who hadn't got change for the toilet popping out for a pee :D:D
... and the Daily Mail are not reporting it as they have a better "shock horror" story - "Polish workers are drafted in to build Navy's new carriers: Migrants paid barely half the British rate" :ugh::ugh: |
Well, I hope they had a bl**dy good reason for opening the door.
The ANO states that "A person shall not be in or on any part of an aircraft in flight which is not a part designed for the accomodation of persons and in particular a person shall not be on the wings......" Needing a fag or popping out for a pee is no excuse. |
A spokesman for Heathrow operator BAA said the problem had been traced to a faulty light. |
From the Telegraph
as flight BA117 turned in the air |
Residents have described how they were woken by the "deafening noise" of the British Airways jet holding 296 passengers heading back in to Heathrow just after 9.30am. |
and according to the BBC there was smoke under the wing! Vapourous reporting...
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Hehe...I should add that as an 'aviation professional' it wasn't deafening nor terrifyingly low, just a bit unusual to see it over 'one's abode'.
As for faulty lights...yep, sometimes the sensors show the door open and it isn't but you can't climb and pressurise to check it...safety first and all that. Gear in the turn? If they were establishing on the LOC at 1500' they probably wanted to drop the gear and get stable before the glide...slightly unusual but not an airshow manoeuvre by any means...steep angle of bank? No, probably not but 30 degrees will look steep if the a/c is at 1500'. Yawn, all a bit of a non story really. I was just a bit curious is all |
Open Door Policy?
Curious that there was a (unconfirmed) report of a ground observer actually "seeing an open door" - seemingly well before any mention of a door warning indicator as the cause of the return?
Perhaps the 'observer' may have been listening to R/T rather than 'seeing'. OTH, an acutally open door is a damn sight less good publicity than a 'prudent decision to return and investigate a (faulty) warning'. |
Don't quite a lot of aeroplanes get 'lowish' over West London? In the jargon it's known at 'final approach', and comes just before 'landing'.
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From Telegraph reporting..
A spokesman for Heathrow operator BAA said the problem had been traced to a faulty light. |
Which door?
Perhaps it was a gear door! Although, even with a cabin door open, I don't see why this would be an emergency. Just a fault requiring a return. |
.... this wasn't Capt. Burkill's first day back was it? ;)
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At the gate:
"Good morning sir, Breathless Bertie here from the Daily Mail here. Did you see anything ?". "Um ..... no. Just a nuisance to be back here with the aircraft gone tech". "Ah, that's, what, 'tek' ...... ? Oh never mind. How would you describe the sensation at the time. Would you use either 'plunged' or 'plummeted' ?" "Neither actually." "Oh, we have to use one or the other in aircraft stories, it says so in the Style Book. Did you see the pilot Grimly Wrestling with the Controls ?" "No, Bit difficult to see the guys up front in a 747 anyway". "Ah. Well, did it FEEL like they were Grimly Wrestling ...." "No, no such nonsense." "What about narrowly missing a school then. Did you see any schools out of the window ?" "Nope". "Convent maybe ?" "NO". "Um .... Charlotte Churchs's house perhaps...... ?" |
Thank God it didn't happen during Wimbledon week - big Jumbo circling over there would have messed up a few shots..
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