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keesje 7th Mar 2009 21:59

New Chinese narrowbody, would you take the helm?
 
China will build its own narrowbody: Comac C-919

Say a HKG carrier orders a bunch and it meets all Chinese requirements, are you ready?

http://www.people.cq.cn/upfile/20090307183241-2.jpg

Roadtrip 7th Mar 2009 22:12

I heard Walmart is going to be marketing it. Available at a Walmart near you in 2012 for low low prices.

MikeNYC 7th Mar 2009 22:46

Hopefully they don't have the same safety and crashworthiness engineers as this Chinese truck: YouTube - Chinese truck crash test ... :rolleyes:

Piltdown Man 7th Mar 2009 22:52

What's wrong with that test? The flat screens and DVD players in the back would almost certainly have been undamaged.

PM

FE Hoppy 7th Mar 2009 23:02

they have been building embraer 145s for years. You might make fun but once they start they will soon overtake the US and EU manufactures. How many of you bought a TV or computer that wasn't made in china?

banana9999 7th Mar 2009 23:28


Originally Posted by misler (Post 4772720)
Hopefully they don't have the same safety and crashworthiness engineers as this Chinese truck: YouTube - Chinese truck crash test ... :rolleyes:

Xenophobic and inaccurate

HarryMann 7th Mar 2009 23:54

misler... Inaccurate post of misrepresented video!
 

Xenophobic and inaccurate
Yes, that was a Volkswagen T3 Dopplekabiner (Doka) testing the facility - no timing marks.

misler - Do background checks before posting misleading links please

Looked like the front energy absorbing beam (behind the bumper had been removed)

This is a fake, Chinese never made VW T3 !!

It's a test of the crash facility wall, probably 100 Km/h with up to 2 ton in the back!!

German T3s will win a fight with a Volvo Estate...

Here is the debunk video.. just watch the Volvo disintegrate
YouTube - What about that VW t3 crash test?

PS. I have a 4WD version of that truck, they are fantastic and very strong vehicles

Reluctant737 8th Mar 2009 00:22

There int nowt wrong wit that ship lad. got wings and a couple o engine ennit?

david.craig 8th Mar 2009 00:23

Funny how it's perceived that these aircraft are of a certain 'risk' [title alone]. Yet as FE Hopper said, the vast quantity of exports from China would suggest that with time, it is entirely possible that the leading manufacturer will one day be from China!

Brenoch 8th Mar 2009 00:29

Not only possible, I would say definately...

admiral ackbar 8th Mar 2009 00:42

I am betting some of the same inane drivel was posted when Brazil started making planes...

Not like they aren't making A320's already. :ugh:

HarryMann 8th Mar 2009 00:47

... that said, several thousand tons of cheap Chinese rubbish is now in UK landfill, powertools that last a week or a month at best, copies (often illegal) of Japanese utility engines and contractor eqpt etc.
A lot also now is graded and sorted and returned as metal scrap to China (or was till recently).... but the environmental cost of buying cheap 'disposable' ill-engineered equipment and tools is really appalling!

david.craig 8th Mar 2009 00:58

I guess the obvious followup to that would be 'it takes time to perfect anything', but I wouldnt like to use that in this case!
A few tv's cathode tubes go, new model comes out, problem fixed.
I guess though the same cant be said for aircraft!

Is it possible though the UK produces just as much crap as China relative to the population.

If they cant do the good better, we wont buy. But judging by the weekend market stalls, if they can do the cheap cheaper, we will!

Old Fella 8th Mar 2009 01:06

Junk from China
 
Some of the stuff from China is in the same league as the Hillman Imp, Vauxhall Victor and Bond tri-wheelers. The Chinese don't have exclusive rights to the production of crap.

Luap 8th Mar 2009 01:36

How is the safety and reliability of Chinese aircraft that are flying now?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_aircraft

lomapaseo 8th Mar 2009 03:12

I hate facts when I was having such a good chuckle from Misler and Putdown man posts.

FlightlessParrot 8th Mar 2009 03:48

It's almost entirely a question of how well they *choose* to build it, and whether they can keep the process sufficiently free of corruption to maintain the standards.

The PRC produces a truckload of crap; it also produces a lot of stuff that is fair value for its low price, and some products that are sold under very prestigious Western brands.

If they want it to sell in the international market, then the odds are that the technology will be slightly behind the cutting edge, the quality will be at least acceptable, and the price highly competitive.

rubik101 8th Mar 2009 04:18

And your point is kisjee?
We in the West only produce world beating, top notch, foolproof and ultimately relaible products?

Add to the list of useless junk produced in the UK the following;
All Vauxhall, Ford, BMC products ever built prior to about 1990.
All financial and banking products since 1997.
All politicians since 1900.
All transport systems since the Romans.
All airports in UK, apart from Bournemouth.

Have you been to Shanghai, amongst a hundred other similar cities, lately?

The public transport system works, the airport works, the traffic moves, the infrastructure hums along quietly and we have the arrogance to assume that everything Chinese is crap?

Join the 21st Century and see the World the way it will be, not the way it was.

I'd fly it today.

vapilot2004 8th Mar 2009 05:04

I've read that the Chinese learned how to construct commercial aircraft from Airbus. The only problem I see here is the parts of the thing may have been built by 8 year olds.

powerstall 8th Mar 2009 05:18

looking at the pictures (computer-generated), seems to me that the C919 is a half breed of an Airbus 319 and a Boeing 737NG.... :E


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