Windy weather causes flight chaos
 

Just had a call from Mrs Trux at STN. She tells me that there are loads of go-arounds due to the high winds. Apparently one OLearyAir made it but only just managed to stay on the black bit.

Have you not seen the wx outside??

GA's are going to be a common thing today my friend. Its happenin a lot at BRS today aswell, a/c unstable in the APP, GA'ing, holding and then landing safely!

Just heard that Cardiff is closed!! So a few GA's at STN is not that big a deal.
All the best..:ooh:

LPL as an alternate to STN? :\

And the press association ALWAYS get it right.....................don't they!!!

Emergency landing!!
Safety Inspection!!

........for apparently low fuel.......................Yeah!

(unless it was a leak perhaps).

Well at least they couldn't say "narrowly missed a school", Liverpool approach being over water at both ends - bet they are really disappointed in the newsroom.

i think you will find the lvp app for 27 goes over Hale, that has two primary schools!

Interesting story on the news about the divert, fire engines where waiting, one hit a car enroute killing the driver.

it gusted at one stage 74kts at EIDW.

Sporty!!

EHAM, consistent +45/50 knts, occn +70knt gust
Flying baggage, rolling bag carts, wobbling catering trucks, moving aircraft for INS/IRS allignment problems, too much wind up the tailpipes, can't shut doors, yes I would agree rather sporting. I am one who is glad to be on the ground today

Parody of the film Twister,, "hey, we got baggage going past the window" So anyone with a small black softsided travel tow-along, with a red ribbon round the handle is missing their bag, it headed off towards the KLM cargo centre at around 1130 :-)

Even the birds have given up trying to fly, I wouldn't even start to guess the ground speed of the downwind pigeon......

Very sad to hear about the fire engine crash at LPL, not a good day due to the Wx

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/6275327.stm

Question, What "Gust Factor" do you heavy metal guys n girls add on to your approach speed? Vref + ? and half gust or something.

Just interested.

If you think that is bad, look at LBA ! All that plus an out of wind runway !!:yuk: :yuk:

1/2 the headwind + all the gust in excess of the h/w max 20kts

Can anyone here explain why Air France and KLM 737's were giving 160kts as their final approach speeds into CDG this morning, when we managed a mere 145kts i.e half headwind + all gust to a max 20kt increment (actuals 250/30 gusting 45)?:confused:

Thanks omnidirectional737

So example, 260/30 Gusting 50 you would Vref +15kts (Half H/W) + 20kts (Max 20 increment) makes Vref+35.....and so do keep that Approach Speed all the way to the Threshold?

180 Too Fower

I don't think your example is quite correct. Judging by his name I think omni is refering to B737s. If so I think the max 20kts is over and above Vref only. So in your example the VApp would be limited to Vref +20.

I could be wrong though, I've been on the Bus for a couple of years now. Incidentally the Airbus has groundspeedmini, this is a black art which can only be devined by wizards and mages.

easy

Probably 800's(KLM 900's?) using F30 flying Vref +15kts.

As an SLF who flew out of STN yesterday afternoon and back today, I was watching the go-arounds with interest from the Ryanair gate area. It was interesting to see the differences in height that various aircraft gave up - one was quite close to the ground whereas others were much further back. It wasn't possible to see how far off-centre they were at decision point but it must have been very interesting at the sharp end. There were also some impressive puffs of smoke from tyres on occasion, I guess that's when things aren't quite square.

When I boarded my flight I did ask if they'd had a fun landing... Take-off was relatively smooth, I've had worse at Gatwick in much milder weather.

Anyway, hello to all, I've been lurking here for a year or two and finally got inspired to register and comment.

welcome
 

llondel

Welcome

390cruise

And what do you do when its gusting? In my company there seems to be a little confusion as to how to go about gusts. I personally take gusts in to account. Windlimit for the aircaft 50 kts, wind reported as 270/40G55, I aint going. What about you guys?

on x-wind limit in 737. gusts are always included.