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OpenCirrus619 1st Jun 2006 11:14

(Hopefully) not an Explosion at London City
 
This is currently on London City web site:


Due to an unexploded World War II bomb that has been found in the area, we have temporarily suspended airport operations at the request of the Metropolitan Police whilst this matter is dealt with.

We advise all passengers to contact their airlines for further travel information.
OC619

P.S. Mods, If this should be elsewhere please move it (like I need to ask).

ORAC 1st Jun 2006 11:16


Due to an unexploded World War II bomb
Just how many exploded bombs do they find... :hmm:

ezybus 1st Jun 2006 16:05

well if its been there since world war 2 unexploded, then why stop flights into LCY in 2006??????????? Just plain stupid:confused: :ugh:

Best foot forward 1st Jun 2006 16:17

Not knowing its there is one thing but once the bomb is found I would imagine it would need to be dealt with properly. Not to do so would be plain Negligence, which is slightly worse than stupid.:ok:

Flying Microphone 1st Jun 2006 16:18


Originally Posted by ezybus
well if its been there since world war 2 unexploded, then why stop flights into LCY in 2006??????????? Just plain stupid:confused: :ugh:


'er, probably because the EOD team will be onsite neutralising the device to make it safe. Otherwise pax may spill their tea as it goes bang!

Final 3 Greens 1st Jun 2006 16:18

then why stop flights into LCY in 2006?

Because it was an "unknown unknown risk" and know it is a "known unknown", that's why.

Edited to say that my post crossed with Best Foot Forward, who says the same thing in another way.

egbt 1st Jun 2006 17:32


'er, probably because the EOD team will be onsite neutralising the device to make it safe.
Yep, also it might have been disturbed when found which could just possibly restart a timer.

WHBM 1st Jun 2006 17:33

You would not believe how far away from the airport (or the approach path) it was. A very over-the-top response by somebody. Not by those who actually picked it up and took it away, all respect to them, but this could have been no hazard to airport traffic at all.

Capt's Little Helper 1st Jun 2006 17:57

WHBM,
Have you got any idea what the blast radius of 2000lb plus of unstable explosives is?? :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

Ingwe 1st Jun 2006 18:14

out of interest how far is it? You imply you know...

Capt's Little Helper 1st Jun 2006 18:18

2000lb of Hi-Ex:-
Blast radius would be about 1200ft.
Fragmentation range about 3000ft.
100% mortality within 110ft.
Leaving a crater approx 50ft wide and 36ft deep.
:uhoh: :eek:
CLH

justanotherstat 1st Jun 2006 18:18

Wasn't it at excel centre, right under take off path from runway 28?? Can't blame them myself. We flew out just before airport closed....

Ingwe 1st Jun 2006 18:20

CLH thanks was just curious:}

coracle 1st Jun 2006 23:51

Problem is though is that you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.
I believe the airport autority permitted deps off 08 ( opposite end to where the bomb was found ), but no landings on either end just in case it went off when an aircraft was on final or going around!!
Sounds sensible to me!!!!!!

Volume 2nd Jun 2006 05:44

Thatīs daily business over here in Germany. Everytime we dig a bigger hole in big cities or at airports that already existed during WWII, we find unexploded bombs.
Just recently (on November 18th to be exact) there was a big bomb found at Hannover, which could not be disarmed on location due to the bad condition (britisch quality....). After 12000 people were evacuated, it was transported to a military area close to Hannover airport (about 3 miles away, 1 mile south of the approach to runway 27L) and blasted there. I was flying to HAJ that night, funny to see all the police car lights flashing blue along the road and on the boundaries of the military area. first thought of an aircraft crash when I saw it, later heard that it was just another bomb finding/disarming/blasting.
You can bet that there are several unexploded bombs within the premises of Frankfurt airport.

btw. starting threads or writing replies including keywords like "bomb" instantly puts you on some blacklist at CIA,MI6,BND etc. so expect to be watched a little more closely by our "friends".

clicker 2nd Jun 2006 06:35

I work in a police control room in Brighton, nearby they had a WWII tank training ground. Always getting calls to found unexploded shells in that area.

Fishing boats have a habit of finding old mines on the seabed but the fishermen don't tell anyone until they get to harbour when the risk has increased by mooring near to other ships and shore installations. :confused:

Mind you we also get some good intent calls. One last week of a large, rusty, unexploded shell turned out to be an old boiler chucked in a hole by its former owner. :D

Taildragger67 2nd Jun 2006 08:10

Slight thread drift...

TD67 and his dad went to the Western Front area a coupla years back and got talking to a local, who told us that the farmers there are regularly crunching into stuff from the Great War in their ploughs. They have a set procedure for the local bobby to come collect it.

One incident he related, however, was slightly more amusing... young couple spotted a likely copse on a summer`s day and got at it behind said stand of trees. Mission interrupted by stinging sensation in his knees and elbows and all over her back. Went to local hospital, doctor recognised contact with mustard gas... The local authorities went to investigate and it turns out a mustard gas shell had been parked right near where they were since the War and had rusted through, leaching some of the noxious substance into the surrounding soil.

Bet that dampened their ardour...

Taildragger67 2nd Jun 2006 08:12

Slight thread drift...
TD67 and his dad went to the Western Front area a coupla years back and got talking to a local, who told us that the farmers there are regularly crunching into stuff from the Great War in their ploughs. They have a set procedure for the local bobby to come collect it.
One incident he related, however, was slightly more amusing... young couple spotted a likely copse on a summer`s day and got at it behind said stand of trees. Mission interrupted by stinging sensation in his knees and elbows and all over her back. Went to local hospital, doctor recognised contact with mustard gas... The local authorities went to investigate and it turns out a mustard gas shell had been parked right near where they were since the War and had rusted through, leaching some of the noxious substance into the surrounding soil.
Bet that dampened their ardour...

captphil 2nd Jun 2006 08:22

Delays at LCY
 
Someone told me that the authorities were just waiting for the Lufthansa to come in and take it back!!!!:=

ShyTorque 2nd Jun 2006 10:32


Originally Posted by Volume
Thatīs daily business over here in Germany. Everytime we dig a bigger hole in big cities or at airports that already existed during WWII, we find unexploded bombs. Just recently (on November 18th to be exact) there was a big bomb found at Hannover, which could not be disarmed on location due to the bad condition (britisch quality....).

Well, there was a war on and they were only designed to do one trip! :p


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