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veetwo 18th May 2005 12:23

Leeds Thread
 
Touched down late and ran off the end of 14 around 11:45 Zulu. No injuries, but paramedics are attending to several passengers suffering from shock. A/C has been stablised and is awaiting inspection from AAIB. Airport is closed for now. Any one know any more?

timmcat 18th May 2005 12:27

Witnessed it from 14 threshold. LTE376 from Fuerteventura looked to land well past the normal touchdown point and has pulled off to the right at the very end onto the grass. Winds at the time south-westerly at 8kts, surface dry.

RT between tower / flight deck and fire crews indicate a reported brake problem. Pax being disembarked by stairs.

JohnnyRocket 18th May 2005 13:19

A plane with 180 passengers on board overshot the runway today at an international airport, a fire and rescue service spokesman said.

The incident happened at around 12.30pm at Leeds Bradford International Airport in West Yorkshire.

A West Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service spokesman said there were not thought to be any serious injuries.

He said the passengers on board the Airbus 320 plane were still disembarking following the incident.

buttline 18th May 2005 13:23

From BBC (because the journalists always get it right)

Passenger plane overshoots runway
A plane with 178 passengers on board overshot the runway at a West Yorkshire airport on Wednesday.
The incident took place at lunchtime at Leeds Bradford International Airport.

A spokeswoman for West Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service said it is not thought anyone was injured during the incident and there was no fire.

All passengers on the Airbus 320 plane had been evacuated. It is not yet clear whether the plane was taking off or landing or which airline was involved.

Airport alert

A fire service spokeswoman said they had been alerted by the airport at 1245 BST that a plane had gone off the end of the runway and had sent 10 pumps with around 50 firefighters to the scene.

Working in conjunction with the airport fire service they evacuated all passengers by 1340 BST.

Eyewitness Brian Bevan told BBC Radio Leeds: "We were in the departure lounge and there was this aircraft very close to the end of the runway and it looks as though it's dropped off with its nose wheel hanging off the end."

He said he could see fire engines at the scene and passengers being brought off the plane.

JohnnyRocket 18th May 2005 13:35

A Leeds Bradford International Airport spokeswoman said: "An A320 LTE aircraft
arriving from Fuerteventura at 12.40 had problems on landing which resulted in
it coming to rest at the end of the runway.
"The 171 passengers on board were disembarked using the aircraft steps and
coached back to the terminal with no reported injuries to any passengers.
"The Air Accident Investigation Team will look to identify the cause and it
is hoped the runway will be operational as soon as possible."
She said that no flights were currently arriving or departing at the airport,
but added that airport bosses were looking to resume the services as soon as
possible.
She added that the flights were expected to resume later today.

coasting 18th May 2005 14:12

Aircraft is an A320 of Jordan Aviation, JY-JAR and operating a sub-charter for LTE, from Fuerteventura, which I think is a MyTravel/Airtours IT flight.

BOTFOJ 18th May 2005 14:55

is that a can of worms I can hear popping open?

YYZ 18th May 2005 15:23

As Timmcat says, landed well after the normal point, just after the intersection for 27/09, no headwind, 5-8kt crosswind, therefore possibly a bit fast as well?

All speculation until investigation, at least nobody was injured!

YYZ

Max Angle 18th May 2005 16:00

LBA claims another scalp, what a rat hole of an airport. How many is that off the end now I wonder?.

GrahamK 18th May 2005 16:04

I can only think of this one and the Caledonian?/British Airtours? L1011.
What others have their been?

Stick Flying 18th May 2005 16:30

A biz jet off the end of 14 and a Saab onto the centre grass (due to cross-winds) are 2 that I know of in the last 6 or 7 years.

leeds.flyer 18th May 2005 16:30

Max Angle - I've been on here for a while, and not often posted but felt I had to upon reading your ill-informed and rather pompus comment.

You chose to coment before even getting the facts right - the journos as usual blew the whole thing out of proportion as "Plane overshoots runway" drama actually turned into an error by the pilot who when turning the aircraft round misjudged the turn and ended up with his nosewheels on the grass.

Yes, he had a brake problem, but it had nothing to do with his error in turning!

"A biz jet off the end of 14" was also pilot error.

Don't know about the Saab.

Paul

Dylsexlic 18th May 2005 16:52

Oooerrr missus! That's told us.

BTriple7 18th May 2005 17:13

Hello Paul,

I beg to differ I am afraid.

I believe that the aircraft landed long and fast and in an effort not to go off the end put it in the grass.

He landed (from my perspective) after the 27/09 intersection. I am not going to lay claim to knowing the speed he was doing but it was higher than the usual approach speed.

Similarly if you look at the location of the aircraft when it came to a stop, its at almost 90 degrees to the runway with the main wheels on the edge of the runway. If he had been attempting a 180 he would not of done it from the centreline and there would be a distinct angle between the main wheels and the runway - unless he got it seriously wrong.

Lastly you know what the hill is like going up 14 towards the 32 end, and there is little runway remaining. I would hazard a guess he got to the top of that hill and realised how little runway remained at his high speed.

Call Established 18th May 2005 17:18

Anyone got a pic of this ???

leeds.flyer 18th May 2005 17:19

Fair point BTriple7. I wasn't there so I can only go on what I am told. If I was wrong then fair enough, I apologise.

I just get annoyed with people slagging off the airport (as Max Angle did) when what happens has got nothing to do with the airport itself, but the pilots!

Kestrel_909 18th May 2005 17:40

Pictures -

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho...t=42872&page=1

Scroll down, way down!

Pontious 18th May 2005 17:40

Max Angle was bang out of order.

Back to the thread:

No advanced warning of a problem with the aircraft (i.e. "Pan" or "Mayday") and no apparent shout to ATC on the rollout that there was a problem.

Not a particularly challenging runway in terms of length compared to the aircraft involved even if it did land 'slightly long'.

Weather- generally fine.

Brake failure anybody?

Is 14/32 it still closed?

BTriple7 18th May 2005 17:43

Hello,

32/14 is now open with reduced TORA/TODA and LDA. Using it very much in a mixed mode use, ie landing 14 and departing 32.

More pictures here

LTNman 18th May 2005 17:57

Leeds flyer wrote


You chose to coment before even getting the facts right - the journos as usual blew the whole thing out of proportion as "Plane overshoots runway" drama actually turned into an error by the pilot who when turning the aircraft round misjudged the turn and ended up with his nosewheels on the grass.
Looking at the photos it is you who has a problem with the facts!


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