Should airline pilots wear hats?
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Judging from the number of headsets, pens, water bottles, wallets, files, diaries, mobile phones etc. left behind in the flight deck by our absent-minded colleagues, if we started wearing hats the average ground crew member could build up quite a nice collection by the end of the first week......
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I hope to be able to look the part when the day comes, so I'm all for hats. Hopefully by then we won't have descended into baseball hat/leather jacket/jeans/sneakers uniforms. Hey, you're at work not at the ball game...so what if there's a uniform?
Oh, and the reverse snobbery can be dropped any time. "Pilots like to pose" ya whatever you probably like to pose pal.
Oh, and the reverse snobbery can be dropped any time. "Pilots like to pose" ya whatever you probably like to pose pal.
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Should airline pilots wear hats?
At LAX last weekend I noticed four pilots heading into the international terminal -- I saw them from the rear, and the only way I knew they were pilots was by their hats. They were wearing short-sleeved shirts and each was dragging a rolling suitcase with his jacket slung over it (it was pretty hot that day) -- and would have looked from the rear like pax had it not been for the hats. I like seeing the pilots -- and uniformed cabin crew -- in the terminal! Don't know how do explain why. Maybe it's because I like to wonder where they've flown in from and where they'll be in 2 days.
There's something uplifting about a group of people arriving in uniform to do their days' work. Makes it seem like they take it really seriously, like they are differentiated from the rest of us because they know more about the matter at hand than we do.
And you men simply look more handsome in the hats!
There's something uplifting about a group of people arriving in uniform to do their days' work. Makes it seem like they take it really seriously, like they are differentiated from the rest of us because they know more about the matter at hand than we do.
And you men simply look more handsome in the hats!
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. . . . so . . . . . . what am I missing here? Most airline pilots alredy wear hats . . . . keeps the sun from burning the bald spot, hides a bad hair day (every day) and that is what the PAX like to see.
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I can understand the problem with the Lufthansa pilot hats which always look slovenly and most Iberia pilots carry their hat under their arm-- I understand why.
A picture is worth a thousand words, and here is the image of "authority" that we are trying to present to the world with our hat.
A picture is worth a thousand words, and here is the image of "authority" that we are trying to present to the world with our hat.
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oh my, having seen the inside of quite a few hats I would suggest their removal would be a safety hazard. Not only are most of the details of their personal life scribbled in turbulent script into the linings but some important stuff too.. (or so they claim)
while I am on the subject...
anonymity, sobriety and tradition. The underlying reason is of course that it was fashionable at the time of introduction, and has been unfashionable for so long that it has become custom.
while I am on the subject...
Why do Barristers & Judges in many jurisdictions wear robes and horsehair wigs?
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The question is not: Should we wear a hat? It should sound: Should a clown have a red nose?
It's all windowdressing, but for the sake of our frightened pax I wear my hat with pleasure.
P77
It's all windowdressing, but for the sake of our frightened pax I wear my hat with pleasure.
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Was part of your F27 checklist worn thin and unreadable by any chance? Shouldn't it read
Captain--------- DON't do tHAT?????? Only joking!
I don't know about Hats but some Capts and F/O's should wear badges reading...
...Tight fisted Git!!! Now I'm not joking!!!
Was part of your F27 checklist worn thin and unreadable by any chance? Shouldn't it read
Captain--------- DON't do tHAT?????? Only joking!
I don't know about Hats but some Capts and F/O's should wear badges reading...
...Tight fisted Git!!! Now I'm not joking!!!
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useless hats
As somone who doesn't have much hair on top..hats are horribly sweaty and uncomfortable unless it's minus 20 outside.
having to walk to the aircraft with one hand holding my pilots case and the other hlding my hat on my head otherwise it gets blown off and so I'd have to chase it while it does it's "frisbee" impersonations across filthy soaking wet tarmac into an engine...hardly professional thinking is it?
Besides..we work in a modern hi-tech industry..so why are we wearing old merchant-navy uniforms from early 1900s and before?
And Crundale..please don't involve yourself in issues which obviously are of no concern to you.
having to walk to the aircraft with one hand holding my pilots case and the other hlding my hat on my head otherwise it gets blown off and so I'd have to chase it while it does it's "frisbee" impersonations across filthy soaking wet tarmac into an engine...hardly professional thinking is it?
Besides..we work in a modern hi-tech industry..so why are we wearing old merchant-navy uniforms from early 1900s and before?
And Crundale..please don't involve yourself in issues which obviously are of no concern to you.
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1) FOD risk on apron
2) Mobody should wear hats inside - it looks silly and nobody ever has in the military/merch navy, from where the uniform was derived.
Therefore: the only time to wear them is between the car and the office/terminal. Bit of a waste of time?
2) Mobody should wear hats inside - it looks silly and nobody ever has in the military/merch navy, from where the uniform was derived.
Therefore: the only time to wear them is between the car and the office/terminal. Bit of a waste of time?
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Celtic frog, if you worry about being bold and sweat...............then wear a bloody wig !
D. Lamination, I agree 100 %. My speedo and my thongs when at home but the hat on the job.
Management is only waiting to have us dressed like Ronnie McDonald...............and pay us accordingly.
It is incridible what the hat does. People do think twice before yelling at you, they're a bit intimidated.
Sure I've come across the usual fazed out twitt who asked to order him a cab while waiting for my airport shuttle but in the end I wasn't the one looking stupid.
Baseball cap ??? I think not !
D. Lamination, I agree 100 %. My speedo and my thongs when at home but the hat on the job.
Management is only waiting to have us dressed like Ronnie McDonald...............and pay us accordingly.
It is incridible what the hat does. People do think twice before yelling at you, they're a bit intimidated.
Sure I've come across the usual fazed out twitt who asked to order him a cab while waiting for my airport shuttle but in the end I wasn't the one looking stupid.
Baseball cap ??? I think not !
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Best headware I ever had was my RAF beret. You could use it to clean your bike, polish your shoes, do the windows, blow your nose and a host of other things. I think they should be standard issue.
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It took me a couple of bruises before I realised the benefit of wearing a hat on the walk round - softens the contact between my head and the landing gear doors!
Good post by Brighton girl, I am sure she only represents a proportion of pax that see us in the terminal, but a professional appearance goes a long way in the eyes of a nervous passenger.
I also recommend the entire uniform as an alternative to plastic surgery. Apparently it makes me look like a school boy - thats over 10 years off my age!
Good post by Brighton girl, I am sure she only represents a proportion of pax that see us in the terminal, but a professional appearance goes a long way in the eyes of a nervous passenger.
I also recommend the entire uniform as an alternative to plastic surgery. Apparently it makes me look like a school boy - thats over 10 years off my age!
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Yes, even as an ex militiary man I've got to agree that the hat has had its day. In an airline with over 900 pilots, if I look closely at the type of individuals who appear to wear their hats these days, the greater majority are the short men with big egos and new boys.