Should airline pilots wear hats?
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Only AA pilots should wear hats. It will make most of their ex-military pilots feel right at home. The rest of us don't need
to feel like we're still IN the military.
Except you, AA717Driver, whom I will allow to go hat-less!
to feel like we're still IN the military.
Except you, AA717Driver, whom I will allow to go hat-less!
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If a hat is not worn, the dress coat/jacket shouldn't be worn either because I think it doesn't look right. It also looks weird when I see a pilot wearing a hat without the jacket. Personally, I'll wear the hat whenever I wear my jacket regardless. I always wanted to be an airline pilot and I'm happy to look like one.
Getting a job as an airline pilot and then trying to change the dress code is a lot like someone that moves near an airport and then tries to change the flight pattern.
Getting a job as an airline pilot and then trying to change the dress code is a lot like someone that moves near an airport and then tries to change the flight pattern.
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I remember hearing a long time ago, that an Air Force , Somewhere, probably U.S. Did practice evac. trials once and determined that shock affected/ traumatised pax. will more readily follow instructions from the guy in the hat (even if its a baseball cap) rather than the guy without. just like pilots wearing clip on ties (to prevent someone choking you from behind) there is usually a valid reason for these time honoured aviation traditions.as time goes on, the reasoning is lost and fashion takes over.
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My first real job, co-pilot on a Twin Otter (Que?), required me to wear a hat. Try to find a convenient place in a Twin Otter cockpit to hang said hat...
Then there was this Citation pilot at DNMM who decided to upgrade his crew´s appearance by ordering one pair of Sporty´s Pilot Shop white hats, both with a hokey sort of generic set of gold wings but one with and one without `scrambled eggs´, for him and his co-pilot. One of our number went across to ask him that while we really found the hats impressive we wondered where did he keep the ice cream. Never mind, he was still a legend in his own mind.
Then there was this Citation pilot at DNMM who decided to upgrade his crew´s appearance by ordering one pair of Sporty´s Pilot Shop white hats, both with a hokey sort of generic set of gold wings but one with and one without `scrambled eggs´, for him and his co-pilot. One of our number went across to ask him that while we really found the hats impressive we wondered where did he keep the ice cream. Never mind, he was still a legend in his own mind.
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"Wearing an airline pilot style hat makes you look much taller and more imposing ( remeber those gestapo uniforms ?) which is really important when operating in most 3rd world countries."
Nevertheless, I try to avoid Jackson, Harlingen and Little Rock!
Smokie,
One of our guys had that exact headwear and put it on his head in line to depart Las Vegas enroute to Los Angeles. (Back in the early days of TCAS --when we found out how really busy LA airspace was. Kind of a "Kamakazi" mission to LA.)
Anyway, in the heat of battle enroute, he leaves the scarf on his head. As he pull into the gate for the return trip to Las Vegas, he looks up and in the windows are some 60 Japanese tourists about to board his plane. He can see their motions (raising of arms and smiling as the shout something). Figuring the cat's out of the bag, he walks into the jetway later as the passengers are boarding and the Japanese tour group is giving him hearty rounds of "BANZAI!!!" Had they ended up in a bar together that evening I trust he wouldn't have been able to buy himself a beer. This group would have taken him under their wing.
Just prior to departure I am told he greeted all the passengers from the front galley mike and (still with headdress on) then in his best Japanese ("Kanichiwa") he bowed to the Japanese passengers and the crowd went wild.
Try that at American or BA!!
PT
Nevertheless, I try to avoid Jackson, Harlingen and Little Rock!
Smokie,
One of our guys had that exact headwear and put it on his head in line to depart Las Vegas enroute to Los Angeles. (Back in the early days of TCAS --when we found out how really busy LA airspace was. Kind of a "Kamakazi" mission to LA.)
Anyway, in the heat of battle enroute, he leaves the scarf on his head. As he pull into the gate for the return trip to Las Vegas, he looks up and in the windows are some 60 Japanese tourists about to board his plane. He can see their motions (raising of arms and smiling as the shout something). Figuring the cat's out of the bag, he walks into the jetway later as the passengers are boarding and the Japanese tour group is giving him hearty rounds of "BANZAI!!!" Had they ended up in a bar together that evening I trust he wouldn't have been able to buy himself a beer. This group would have taken him under their wing.
Just prior to departure I am told he greeted all the passengers from the front galley mike and (still with headdress on) then in his best Japanese ("Kanichiwa") he bowed to the Japanese passengers and the crowd went wild.
Try that at American or BA!!
PT
Psychophysiological entity
many years ago, I looked at my mate's hat and then at his head, and remarked that he had got a small head. He picked my hat up and after some moments said. "Mmm if you fitted rollock holes in the sides of yours, you could use it as a dingy"
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Being your typical aussie guy my preferred form of dress is thongs and a t-shirt (UGG boots in winter!), HOWEVER, I do support hats for pilots - And we ask: why is it so?
Why do Doctors wear white coats and carry a stethoscope? Why do Barristers & Judges in many jurisdictions wear robes and horsehair wigs? Why do the military the world over wear uniforms with hats when not on the battlefield? What about police?
The answer is that is about differentiation and respect
a form of promotion and marketing of the profession, if you will.
Look like a pilot (i.e. popular image of one) and expect to be treated like one. Look like a bus driver or baggage handler..............
A local example in OZ: QF pilots = fancy hats , VB pilots in baseball caps - who gets paid more?
Make no mistake: airline managements are out to get you - "dressing down" is but one further tiny step on the way to their goal
So, for the sake of all you guys & gals out there I'll keep wearing that
hat.
Why do Doctors wear white coats and carry a stethoscope? Why do Barristers & Judges in many jurisdictions wear robes and horsehair wigs? Why do the military the world over wear uniforms with hats when not on the battlefield? What about police?
The answer is that is about differentiation and respect
a form of promotion and marketing of the profession, if you will.Look like a pilot (i.e. popular image of one) and expect to be treated like one. Look like a bus driver or baggage handler..............
A local example in OZ: QF pilots = fancy hats , VB pilots in baseball caps - who gets paid more?
Make no mistake: airline managements are out to get you - "dressing down" is but one further tiny step on the way to their goal
So, for the sake of all you guys & gals out there I'll keep wearing that
hat.
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Pilots wear hats as it provides posing power. pilots like to pose.
they convince themselves they're something they're not.
They probably wear them in the shower.
Why do pilots wear they're uniforms to go the toilet?
so they can pull rank. poncey pilots, please give it a rest.
they convince themselves they're something they're not.
They probably wear them in the shower.
Why do pilots wear they're uniforms to go the toilet?
so they can pull rank. poncey pilots, please give it a rest.
My vote would be: no caps - and summer shirts designed to be worn without ties. (as per Gulf Air in the eighties)
I do recollect a skipper flying the approach to LHR wearing a kefiya - very fetching but takes out the periphral vision a bit
I do recollect a skipper flying the approach to LHR wearing a kefiya - very fetching but takes out the periphral vision a bit
What do you wear to pose, Redadair - a backtofront baseball cap ?!
There's a definite inferiority complex oozing through every word you've written.
Personally, I only wear mine when its pi**ing down with rain!
Tatty bye,
Sleeve.
There's a definite inferiority complex oozing through every word you've written.
Personally, I only wear mine when its pi**ing down with rain!
Tatty bye,
Sleeve.