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Chautauqua jet lands at the wrong airport!

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Old 26th Jan 2003, 16:32
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Lu & Skylord, the 'wrong' Montreal airport was Cartierville. Happened more than once I believe, and since it was home to the Canadair factory it would have looked pretty much like a major airport what with the buildings and parked aircraft.
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Old 26th Jan 2003, 18:27
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Hence the acronym Been Over At Cartierville.
Eastern did the same thing with a nine, but they canned the crew. R28 was under repair, and had been NOTAMed closed.
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Old 26th Jan 2003, 19:21
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I believe that a Dan Air aircraft landed at Langford Loch Airfield instead of Belfast Aldergrove in the 70's- similar runway layout.
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Old 26th Jan 2003, 20:26
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Delta's evening flight from Atlanta to Daytona Beach, once took the wrong turn and ended up at Ormond Municipal (a couple of miles north of DAB) instead.
They had to strip that MD right down to the skin, with a minimum of fuel, to get it airborne again.
I was told it was a heck of a sight when it took off!

Another time, a Delta had to push the TO/GA in order to not make contact with International Speedway Blvd, which is parallell to DAB's 7L/25R. :o
...that one is unverified, though!
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Old 26th Jan 2003, 20:52
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Skylord, Lu:

BOAC landed at Cartierville, (later Canadair plant; now closed) while on approach to Dorval. It invitingly appears at your 1 o'clock as you go by the FAF for 24R at CYUL.

That was a very long time ago; Mirabel was but a glint in a bureaucrat's eye.
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Old 27th Jan 2003, 03:16
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Truthfully, gang, this kind of error could happen to ANYONE, especially at night, in the early morning hours or in an unfamiliar country/region.

It has happened before, and will happen again.
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Old 27th Jan 2003, 05:55
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Just curious if it actually was Chautauqua - they don't fly the Canadair RJ, only the Embrair RJ. Is there any other source of news for this?

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Old 29th Jan 2003, 18:50
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Cool Never Ask for Directions

It is common for pilots in the US plains to alight at an airport uncertain of position. The drill is to buy gas and/or a snack and skulk around while looking for some sign of which airport has been blessed with their presence without giving amusement to the locals.

This conduct is not confined to pilots. A book on Polynesian sea navigation, The Voyaging Stars by David Lewis describes one occasion where some fishermen on a canoe were blown off course by a storm and were quite happy to find land. They hung about for several days until they overheard a children's chant which clued them in on where they had landed
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Old 5th Feb 2003, 21:39
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An errant 727 wound up at Louisville Bowman runway 24 (KLOU, 4050 x 75 (?)) ) rather than Louisville Standiford runway 18 (KSDF, 11,000 x alot) in the late 70s. The aforementioned "lightening" drill was carried out and the three holer disappeared over the trees in a shriek of un-huskitted machismo.
Guess who was 4 years old and lived under the departure path for 24. I look back on that day and realize that must be how I got in to this mess.
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Old 6th Feb 2003, 10:02
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To me the most amazing and hardest to comprehend was Northwest delivering a DC-10 load of passengers to Brussels instead of Frankfurt.
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Old 6th Feb 2003, 10:50
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taxi way

I vaguely recall an incident in the south of England during the mid 1980s when a passenger jet landed on a taxiway at the end of which another passenger jet was correctly awaiting clearance for take off. A disaster was narrowly avoided only by a sharp observer on ATC who radioed the awating aircraft and instructed them to drive onto the grass. I also seem to think that a similar incident occurred at the same runway a few years later but for both incidents I do not recall specific details.
About 6 years ago, I recall a BA 747 pilot mistaking the lights of the M4 for Heathrow and almost landing, coming within 200 yards of touchdown. From memory, the pilot was a Scottish lad who quietly disapeared and they found him a few days later in his car in a remote part of the Black Isle with a hose pipe from his exhaust.
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Old 13th Feb 2003, 07:22
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We had an incident in Brussels, must have been at least 10 years ago. A northwest DC-10 (maybe 747) landed in Brussel instead of Frankfurt. Both airports have two runways 25L/R, there was a mix up in shannon when they came into european airspace. All controlers were convinced that they were going to BRU. The crew realised the error in final approach (was explained in newspaper??) en decided to continue to land for safety reasons. Wonder how the atmosphere must have been in the cabin when they did the PA.
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Old 13th Feb 2003, 15:34
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Ok silly suggestion time:

As well as putting the Runway designator on the the Threshold why not put the airfield code as well. Possibly at least you would end up with an embarrasing G/A rather than an embarrasing take off!

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Old 15th Feb 2003, 20:29
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Back in my air taxi days one of the pilots (just after I had left) landed at a small military field about 5 nm shy of Derry and on the final approach track. Can't remember it's name, but the Jepp shows it on the approach plate and warns you about it! He had a couple of punters on board and the field was shut. When ATC asked his position as he had disappeared off their screens he reported that he had landed and they advised him that it may be better if he taxied back round and took off again pronto to re-establish himself on a 'short final' for Derry! Lord knows what he told the two punters! He didn't last much longer, in fact I think it was after he took off on another job out of Cumbernauld and sailed straight across Glasgow's control zone without speaking to anyone!

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Old 15th Feb 2003, 21:05
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True story. At CYUL R10 and 06L have a common threshold. One morning, a newby on his way to his PPL check ride was cleared to land on 06L at the same time as a friend in a 125 was cleared to land on R28. The new guy landed on R10, and both aircraft got stopped near the intersection of Taxiway Echo, that used to be R36. My friend asked the tower who had the right-of-way. Smart-a$$ controller answered, "The one landing on the Echo."
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 19:10
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I'm not defending the crew that landed at the wrong airport.
They had a deffered FMS and were using old time VORs. Niether pilot had ever been to South Bend before.
The problem came when they decided to take off again without contacting anyone. The FAA busted them both. Taking off without a fuel release or runway data.
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 20:08
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Neither pilot had been to the scheduled destination before? How does a 121 crew get route qualified without having been there?
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 20:29
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Late 80s at Ipswich, I saw with my own eyes an aircraft on long final for 14 (the short one). The tower phoned up the local USAF and it turned off before getting really close.

I don't think it would have stopped before the end.

It was a C5A.
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 23:51
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Pt 121 pilots can be route qualified just by having the apropriate Jepps and enroute charts. There are special airports selected by the FAA. Jepp issue color pictures of all the approaches.
Too many airports here to be personally route qualified on every possible segment.
I remember when we started to fly from Dallas to Gunnison, CO. It's smack in the middle of the Rockies. We had to have either a check airman or a captain who'd flown the route before on our first trip there. But that was an exception.
It's a big sky here in the USA.
Oh, it wasn't scheduled. It was a charter.

Didn't Pan Am take a 707 into Northolt in the late 60s, early 70s?
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Old 25th Mar 2005, 22:49
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DAN AIR HS748 LANDED AT DISUSED MIL AIRFIELD NOT FAR FROM BELFAST INT BACK IN THE LATE 90'S??
 


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