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Old Heathrow aircraft ID please

Old 7th Sep 2020, 10:52
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Definitely 1-11 in the foreground. I would go for DC8 on the distant one, as the tail looks wrong (to me) for 707 but it could be the angle of the A/C in relation to yourself.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 11:04
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Pan Am 747 was probably this one which I think was there for a while being repaired. Fairly certain I saw it there a week or so later.

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Thankyou mr T, if it was there for a while I probably saw it in reality as well as in a photo. The PanAm steeds were so everyday back then it probably didn't seem so interesting apart from it's location. I do remember a British Airways/BOAC 747 doing an RTO on 27L due to a compressor stall, loud bang and flames out the back around that time period, if anyone remembers the incident. The 'bang' happened abeam the old T2 multistory carpark.

As to the 707 being a Kuwait example, it's possible, but I would've thought with the British connections to that country, the very competent BOAC/BA maintenance area would be the logical choice. The only 'other' 707 I ever saw at the PanAm Mx hangar was Bangladesh Biman, and if I remember that was an ex-PA example.
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I recall an Icelandic 707 on the Pan Am ramp, Eagle Airways? Or something. TF-VLA rings a bell, think they did a lot of flying for other airlines.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 12:54
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Eagle Air Arnaflug had a green and white tail iirc
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 20:20
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Sorry, wasn't suggesting it was the aircraft in the pic - I'm thinking circa 78-80. They had 720s TF-VLA/VLB and 707 TF-VLL which was the ex Maverick International 707 N448M - an interesting saga! I saw it overfly one morning with a very loud and confident howdy on 134.9 as it passed Woodley, "London, Maverick 448 Mike"!
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N448PA N448M G-BMAZ

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Sorry, wasn't suggesting it was the aircraft in the pic - I'm thinking circa 78-80. They had 720s TF-VLA/VLB and 707 TF-VLL which was the ex Maverick International 707 N448M - an interesting saga! I saw it overfly one morning with a very loud and confident howdy on 134.9 as it passed Woodley, "London, Maverick 448 Mike"!
Ah!
N448M ex N448PA with Pan Am until 1977 (Built as a pure cargo jet) was leased to Maverick (tail logo was a black steer's horns), then BMA's Mr Bishop with business pal R. Beauchamp repossessed it back in 1979 now painted all white.
BMA used it on full cargo leases to various airlines. It was often at LHR - It was repainted in full PIA and Gulf Air Falcon colours, then returned to BMA with Cargo titles.
N448M was then bought by Eagle Air, Iceland in 1981as TF-VLL, leased to Libyan Arab Airlines. By 10/1981 it was in full Libyan livery.

BMA bought it back in 4/1982, then painted again into BMA house livery with Cargo titles.
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She was soon rebuilt as a passenger 707 with a new wide look cabin, new galleys and new seats for 212 pax (No IFE fitted) and joined the BMA 707 IT holiday charter fleet until 1985.
The engines also received 3 Turbo Compressors (pure cargo 707's only had 2 as built) to enable long haul Pax charters to USA and Canada.

The old photo above is from 1975 so it's not 448 (Unless it is her still with PAA lol)
Chances are it is a PAA 707 in this photo, or a Kuwait just possibly...?

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Old 8th Sep 2020, 17:04
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Extreme zoom in and better colour, definitely my last attempt.
Looks like a fairly straight line at bottom of logo, so I'm now favouring Kuwait. - I think,
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Old 8th Sep 2020, 17:06
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And just for nostalgia.... 1983. My son - and he didnt even turn out to be a spotter!

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