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Wrong way to Sydney on Air China

Old 18th Jun 2018, 00:54
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Wrong way to Sydney on Air China

Wrong way to Sydney on Air China

A friend flew on Air China on May 22 from Shanghai to Sydney. However, well into the flight, he noticed that the flight appeared to have a different destination...TOKYO, not Sydney, according to the route on the flight map and all the destination details (time to destination, local time at destination) as provided on the same in-flight system.

Here's his Facebook post on the same day. I have a photo of the inflight map which shows the extreme deviation in route from a heading direct to Tokyo towards Sydney (but unfortunately cannot post it due to adminstrator's restrictions on what I can post).

But my question to the experts is.... HOW THE HECK is this even possible ?

This morning. 36,000 feet approaching Japan on glamorous Air China.
Me (pax) to Flight Attendant (FA) :
Me: Excuse me, it appears we might be flying to Tokyo, not Sydney.

FA: No sir, we are definitely flying to Sydney.
Me: So why does the on-screen map identify Tokyo as our destination and we are clearly flying in that direction?
FA: Errr. I will just go and check with the captain.
[5 minutes later we feel the plane gently banking right and she re-appears]
FA: Sir, I can confirm we are definitely flying to Sydney.
Me: Well, yes, we are now; but the plane has clearly changed direction. Why were we flying towards Tokyo?
FA: [Smiles sweetly, backs slowly away]
(10 mins later)
FA: The captain says there are 2 routes we take to Sydney. One being this North East route the other being Westerly.
Me: Ah, of course. That makes sense. Do you always fly in totally the wrong direction to get to your destination?
FA: [Smiles sweetly, backs slowly away, again.]
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 01:39
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Do you suppose there might be follow-up on this. I certainly hope so.

Can you imagine the FA having to tell the CAPTAIN this news.

And then that talk with ATC.

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Old 18th Jun 2018, 01:50
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Tokyo, Sydney, both eastern cities with bridges over water and good food. Splitting hairs.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 06:50
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Looking at CA's PVG-SYD flights for other days, the routeing typically skirts the southern coast of Japan, often overflying Tanegashima , before turning south towards Oz.

Here's the flight a couple of days prior to yours:

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Old 18th Jun 2018, 07:29
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if the in flight map is showing the destination as one thing..... but you are meant to go to another then its highly suspicious.

No problem with the route above but I suspect the In flight map would show the destination and time to run for Sydney.

How is it possible? Wrong data in the FMS.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 08:30
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Certainly heard of funny stuff going on with the IFE if you were particularly tardy with a route modification or playing with Route 2.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 08:54
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Always dreamed of getting a plot of land on Tanegashima. Not so happy now seeing these overflights. Why does Air China have to fly so far north-east anyway?
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 11:42
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Interesting if you are thinking to fly to Tokyo, load the FMC & fuel for that, check the fuel in pre-flight and then still have enough to fly to Sydney. Does IFE come direct from FMC? From a fuel point of view I think there is more to this than reported, and it was all OK.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 11:49
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Originally Posted by RAT 5 View Post
Does IFE come direct from FMC? .
Some moving map and flight info stuff certainly does...which can lead to fun and games.

I gather we’ve got a gremlin with one of our newer aircraft/IFE fits at the moment ‘cos for some reason it sometimes displays the ATC callsign (as loaded in the FMC) on a flight information page instead of the Flight Number ...that as been known to cause some confusion in the cabin,...


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Old 18th Jun 2018, 12:15
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Having a regular gander at the launch pad?
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 13:46
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If you're not aware, some passengers might get the same 'feeling' something is wrong when flying BA from Rio to Heathrow; it heads south west for the first leg of the flight 'cos it pick up in Sao Paulo.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 16:34
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Must be one of those ground hacks...
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Old 23rd Jun 2018, 10:00
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It looks to me as if the track is skirting Taiwanese airspace.
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Old 23rd Jun 2018, 12:39
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Carving out a dotted line?
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