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Old 29th Oct 2017, 06:14
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Originally Posted by RAT 5
I used to fly on BMI DC-9 a few times. I knew nothing of the a/c, but I knew about the wings of a Boeing. One day we flew out and here were the LED's, drooping. On the return I was horrified to not see any drooping LED's. I only paid attention as we turned on the runway, obviously. Too late to alert the CA's, just blind faith that the guys knew what they were doing. Later found out a little about the DC-9 family and the lack of LED's on early smaller models. There was a heart in mouth moment as we hurtled down the thankfully long runway.
yes our BMA baby DC9-15's had no LE flaps/slats and came into land in a nose down attitude
in 1983 we bought 2 ex EAAC DC9-32's which had high lift LE devices on the wings - full width

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Old 29th Oct 2017, 06:19
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3 notable fatal accidents where no LE flap or no flap at all was deployed are

LH 747-100 NBO failed to get airborne no LE flap selected crashed into the bush aural warning not fitted on early 747's (BOAC/BA had already had near misses)

NW DC-9 80 DTW no flap selected on take off crashed onto freeway

Spanair MAD MD80 no flap selected on take off failed to get airborne
aural warning CB failure
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