Top 10 British Pilots
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Total load of tosh and not surprising there are some managers on there and some sprog fighter jock from the RAF. The best way of doing this is to send everyone with a pilots licence and everyone who flies in the services a questionnaire and see what comes out . Maybe Ray Hanna will be up in the top ten but who's flown with him? He seems to fly single seaters a lot so there's noone around to judge. Same goes for all single seat guys. Maybe those aircraft requiring 2 pilots don't need as much skill to be flown well but need more by way of captaincy. Tricky one isn't it?
hmmmmmmm..........
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TOP 10 British Pilots
(see list) Gimme a break pplllleasssse...................................
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(see list) Gimme a break pplllleasssse...................................
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I've always held certain newspapers in very low regard. Needless to say The Independent (NOT!) is one of them, and articles like this only reinforce that view. I suppose one should be grateful for having one's opinions confirmed!
This ranks along with the "most jinxed jet in Britain" article from The Times "Insight" Team as some of the worst, most uninformed drivel written about aviation.
I am sure all those pilots on the list are fine, professional pilots, but there are many others whose abilities are just as good, but who carry on their jobs out of the limelight.
Articles like this say far more about those who write them than those in them.
This ranks along with the "most jinxed jet in Britain" article from The Times "Insight" Team as some of the worst, most uninformed drivel written about aviation.
I am sure all those pilots on the list are fine, professional pilots, but there are many others whose abilities are just as good, but who carry on their jobs out of the limelight.
Articles like this say far more about those who write them than those in them.
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"Paul Douglas
Captain Paul Douglas, 52, is general manager of flight operations at British Airways. He joined BA in 1974 as a
Trident co-pilot"
So we know why he got on the list.
(But what about the others?)
Captain Paul Douglas, 52, is general manager of flight operations at British Airways. He joined BA in 1974 as a
Trident co-pilot"
So we know why he got on the list.
(But what about the others?)
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I have to agree with Kaos. John Travolta is 'the man'. And it dosen't matter if he's not British. He wanted to fly so he bought a fleet of aircraft. If he wants to be a top 10 British pilot it's easy....he just has to buy Britain. 
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Some of you are getting a wee bit over-emotional.
Firstly, read the top of the article. These pilots did NOT pick themselves, it was other pilots within their respective peer groups that recommended them. Just because YOU weren't asked does not invalidate the results. I wasn't asked either but I look at this objectively, dispationatly and without malice or jealousy.
Clearly various sections of the flying industry were polled and consequently the result is a reflection of that. We all think we know pilots that should have been on the list but it is a list of ONLY 10.
It is also hardly surprising that BA got more than one mention when you consider the numbers of pilots they have, it is possibly a statistical inevitability!
I have known Dan Arlett very well for a great number of years and know of his outstanding skill, ability, determination and dedication. If others in HIS peer group nominated him then they probably know what they are doing.
Let go of your envie.
Firstly, read the top of the article. These pilots did NOT pick themselves, it was other pilots within their respective peer groups that recommended them. Just because YOU weren't asked does not invalidate the results. I wasn't asked either but I look at this objectively, dispationatly and without malice or jealousy.
Clearly various sections of the flying industry were polled and consequently the result is a reflection of that. We all think we know pilots that should have been on the list but it is a list of ONLY 10.
It is also hardly surprising that BA got more than one mention when you consider the numbers of pilots they have, it is possibly a statistical inevitability!
I have known Dan Arlett very well for a great number of years and know of his outstanding skill, ability, determination and dedication. If others in HIS peer group nominated him then they probably know what they are doing.
Let go of your envie.
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John Travolta is the MAN ! He looks so cool in the uniform. Why does he look so suave and I look so sweaty and harrassed in mine? Put him at No. 1, but can anybody explain where this tosh came from and exactly which screaming idiot compiled it?
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According to Kate Hilpern Richard Hill's "career highlight is the successful introduction of the Airbus A321 into service"
However credit must be given to the two very experienced and dedicated managers/ training captains responsible for the introduction of this new type. They spent many nights away from home in Toulouse and long hours in the office.
Well done!
MP
However credit must be given to the two very experienced and dedicated managers/ training captains responsible for the introduction of this new type. They spent many nights away from home in Toulouse and long hours in the office.
Well done!
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Didn't you read it properly first time round? They were picked by their peers. So Lloyd said 'I vote for Paul', Paul said 'I vote for Mike', and Mike said 'Ivote for Lloyd'.
Didn't you read it properly first time round? They were picked by their peers. So Lloyd said 'I vote for Paul', Paul said 'I vote for Mike', and Mike said 'Ivote for Lloyd'.
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What about the heroes who fought, killed, and died for their country in the Battle of Britain and World War II?!?
Those guys were in a whole different league to any of the people on that list!
Certainly those three desk pilots would be schmoosing their way up Lufthansa's greasy pole now if it wasn't for the efforts of a previous generation...
I can't believe some people's lack of awareness and perspective sometimes.
Those guys were in a whole different league to any of the people on that list!
Certainly those three desk pilots would be schmoosing their way up Lufthansa's greasy pole now if it wasn't for the efforts of a previous generation...
I can't believe some people's lack of awareness and perspective sometimes.
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Well my vote for the individual responsible for the successful introduction of the Airbus into 'BRITISH MIDLAND' goes to a certain Captain Roger Markwick.
In the face of sometimes hostile opposition, this mans gutsy determination to introduce the type, in the way he deeply believed it should be operated, has left bmi with one of the best trained and motivated fleets the company has ever had.
All this was achieved at great personal cost to Roger, and with little recognition from the management. In fact quite the reverse.
From all those who benefitted personally from Rogers unique training methods, and from those to whom his words of wisdom are still being passed on........THANK YOU !!
In the face of sometimes hostile opposition, this mans gutsy determination to introduce the type, in the way he deeply believed it should be operated, has left bmi with one of the best trained and motivated fleets the company has ever had.
All this was achieved at great personal cost to Roger, and with little recognition from the management. In fact quite the reverse.
From all those who benefitted personally from Rogers unique training methods, and from those to whom his words of wisdom are still being passed on........THANK YOU !!
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Nobody would doubt the Battle of Britain pilots were heroic, but whatever this daft poll is meant to be, it's not the 'Top 10 bravest British pilots of all time.'
"Awareness and perspective"? Hmm.
Nobody would doubt the Battle of Britain pilots were heroic, but whatever this daft poll is meant to be, it's not the 'Top 10 bravest British pilots of all time.'
"Awareness and perspective"? Hmm.
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Too bad they didn't ask Captain Tim Lancaster (British Airways BAC1-11 windshield incident) who his top ten would include. I'll bet a pound that Alistair Acheson (sp?) is on his list. AA was the copilot who safely landed the aeroplane with TL dangling out the window.
Jeffrey Quill's inclusion also comes to mind.
In the US "the prince of darkness" refers to the dubious wiring systems formerly offered by Lucas auto electrics. On second thoughts, it fits PD also.
Cheers,
Jeffrey Quill's inclusion also comes to mind.
In the US "the prince of darkness" refers to the dubious wiring systems formerly offered by Lucas auto electrics. On second thoughts, it fits PD also.
Cheers,
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Well, the heading just said "top 10 British Pilots". To not include any WWII/BoB pilots at all seems rather remiss.
Anyway, had I been considering the "top 10 bravest", I might concede the presence of LCG on there - its one seriously brave man who decides to represent management to the motley crews of BA...
And please do not run away with the idea that I was suggesting I had any awareness or perspective - but you can't read this site and think anyone else has any either!!! 
Well, the heading just said "top 10 British Pilots". To not include any WWII/BoB pilots at all seems rather remiss.
Anyway, had I been considering the "top 10 bravest", I might concede the presence of LCG on there - its one seriously brave man who decides to represent management to the motley crews of BA...
And please do not run away with the idea that I was suggesting I had any awareness or perspective - but you can't read this site and think anyone else has any either!!!