US Visa violation by New Zealander
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In the US you are now required to have a specific VISA and security check before conducting training. A nice new bureacracy that takes 90 days (or so I am told) and requires you to authorize US government agencies to monitor your personal computer and email as well as bank account.
Call any Flight Safety Centre and ask them about the procedure.
Call any Flight Safety Centre and ask them about the procedure.
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The man escorting Hussein's stepson is really Wael Wheyb(?) an Iraqi who defected to the US as a result of the gulf war. He is a former Iraqi Airways pilot and now carries a US passport. I believe a congress person helped him out in getting the passport. Wael changed his named to Wally Matthews (anyone watch Leave It To Beaver TV show) to appear more American. He is a former Kitty Hawk pilot and knows how easy it is/was to enter the US. I think someone was misled on this entry attempt.
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I think the INS and FBI's biggest problem with this guy was the risk of the media suddenly reporting a 'Bumbling authorities' type story. The first reporter to get their hands on a scoop like that ( 'Saddams son training in Florida!') would be drooling. A lot of training in specialised areas simply isnt available outside the US, and going there to get it these days is becoming more of a chore. It used to be fun, but its getting to the point where they'll start frisking you for long fingernails.
Getting anything other than a general tourist visa for the US can be a real challenge for people in smaller countries.. the State Department types are so inefficient and straight out rude in some smaller embassies that theres hardly any incentive to sit on the hard plastic chair in The Bunker for five hours while the assistant consul takes his time approving your application, and its a fair bet youll be told to go home and come back next week. With service like this, its a fair bet a lot of people are shortcutting the system and travelling on mere tourist visas.
Getting anything other than a general tourist visa for the US can be a real challenge for people in smaller countries.. the State Department types are so inefficient and straight out rude in some smaller embassies that theres hardly any incentive to sit on the hard plastic chair in The Bunker for five hours while the assistant consul takes his time approving your application, and its a fair bet youll be told to go home and come back next week. With service like this, its a fair bet a lot of people are shortcutting the system and travelling on mere tourist visas.
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Another poor chump caught up in hysteria. As an American citizen, I am ashamed. Europe has had terrorism for years, and has dealt with it in a grown-up fashion; it seems 'My Fellow Americans' are, as shocked children, unable to make relevant distinctions (like those 'Fox Friends' childish idiots). It's about time we grew up; before deporting all-and-sundry; a mature look at this guy's background would have determined, regardless of parentage, his seriousness as a professional crewmember. His deportation is absurd and outrageous. As an American, sir, if you see this, I apologize (at least for myself, if not for others).
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OK I am off toFlorida to renta a motorhome for about 10 days I am a white Australian Pilot living in the UK .I have a UK and Australian ATPL I also have a US Private pilots licence issude about 12 years ago on a nother visit.
I may rent a light a/c while there to take the family for a jolly.
Also I will be in Miami and will drop in to see about 737 type rating as I hope to get a job with
Virgin Blue back in Aus one day,
Is there going to be any trouble for me and my family while there?
I know you guys in the US have the right to defend you selfs and so you should .But as said before I can go else where.
But I was look forward to this trip.
Ps any suggestions on were to go, or not to go, I pick the motor home in Orlando and have 10 days.
Also any good airports to rent say a 172 No doubt I will need a medical and checkout?
I may rent a light a/c while there to take the family for a jolly.
Also I will be in Miami and will drop in to see about 737 type rating as I hope to get a job with
Virgin Blue back in Aus one day,
Is there going to be any trouble for me and my family while there?
I know you guys in the US have the right to defend you selfs and so you should .But as said before I can go else where.
But I was look forward to this trip.
Ps any suggestions on were to go, or not to go, I pick the motor home in Orlando and have 10 days.
Also any good airports to rent say a 172 No doubt I will need a medical and checkout?
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Big Dog 2:
Stop by in FLL and have a beer with the local PPRuNe crowd..
As for a 737 rating.
I bought my own years ago and can recommend a school in Texas called "Higher Power Aviation".
The owner is Mark Sterns and a good friend.
Cheers Mate.
Stop by in FLL and have a beer with the local PPRuNe crowd..
As for a 737 rating.
I bought my own years ago and can recommend a school in Texas called "Higher Power Aviation".
The owner is Mark Sterns and a good friend.
Cheers Mate.
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Big Dog 2.
I suggest that you look at the thread in the wannabes forum regarding visas. believe that you will find that you can fly the C172 for fun on a visa waiver, but you most certainly cant do anything that results in a qualification, especially a jet rating for an aircraft above 12,500 lbs.
I will also second TD's comments about HPA and Mark Sterns, IMHO they run the best flight school that i have ever visited in the USA.
Enjoy the holiday.
Mutt
I suggest that you look at the thread in the wannabes forum regarding visas. believe that you will find that you can fly the C172 for fun on a visa waiver, but you most certainly cant do anything that results in a qualification, especially a jet rating for an aircraft above 12,500 lbs.
I will also second TD's comments about HPA and Mark Sterns, IMHO they run the best flight school that i have ever visited in the USA.
Enjoy the holiday.
Mutt
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Latest from the New Zealand Herald:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...ection=general
Further, it is now being reported that the gentleman in question had prior approval from the U.S. Department of Justice to attend the school !!
I can understand the concerns following 9/11, but the paranoia exhibited by some 'authorities' in the States these days, confirms it is no longer 'the land of the free'.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...ection=general
Further, it is now being reported that the gentleman in question had prior approval from the U.S. Department of Justice to attend the school !!
I can understand the concerns following 9/11, but the paranoia exhibited by some 'authorities' in the States these days, confirms it is no longer 'the land of the free'.
Heard from a few sources of an Australian pilot who had just been given a job with Virgin Blue was heading over to the US to do his 737 endorsement a couple of months ago. He had all the right paperwork, including letters from the airline, the course provider, consulate etc.
Upon arrival, he was searched, flying docs found, he produced the letters, but to no avail. Searched again, locked in a room with illegal immigrants, then handcuffed and frogmarched thru the LA apt to the next Qantas flight departing to Aus (they rang and moved forward his return ticket date) and sent to Auckland NZ.
He was not allowed a phone call in LA, nor any consular access. The first access he had to a phone was in Auckland. The US Embassy in Australia confirmed that ALL his documentation was in order.
Upon arrival, he was searched, flying docs found, he produced the letters, but to no avail. Searched again, locked in a room with illegal immigrants, then handcuffed and frogmarched thru the LA apt to the next Qantas flight departing to Aus (they rang and moved forward his return ticket date) and sent to Auckland NZ.
He was not allowed a phone call in LA, nor any consular access. The first access he had to a phone was in Auckland. The US Embassy in Australia confirmed that ALL his documentation was in order.
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Visa problems
Anyone who would like to share their immigration horror stories / problems so this issue can be pursued may email :
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Patricia "Tiger" Brooks, Director
Tiger Lines Cargo, Ltd.
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Tiger Lines Cargo, Ltd.
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It has been a strange year.
Having myself been hassled, over decades, by quite an array of officious and sometimes seriously threatening frontier (and inland) authorities encountered while traveling, I feel concern for non US-citizens who are being caught on the rough edges of the system during this period of official transition from under-controlling the US frontiers to overcontrolling them.
At this moment in time, the U.S. press seems poised to follow up and crucify any official who is caught being lax or making a bad decision that leaves a trail, so the govt. guys who want to collect their pensions are inclined to err way far on the side of caution.
As most at Pprune likely already understand, being even slightly indignant, threatening, impatient, deceptive or evasive is the best way to set off their alarm bells.
For those who have serious red - flag type issues, whether due to history, birth, or associations, the best insurance against problems is to disclose the sticky bits up front - before the fact, if possible - to relevant authorities and to people or organizations that can subsequently vouch for the disclosure. Of course, for private-minded persons, this can be difficult - for quite legitimate reasons. One can hope that ICAO or some of the U.S. Aviation organizations will eventually get in the loop to help individuals avoid and / or resolve various sorts of potential problems at the border.
Let's try to have a little sense of humor about this. It will pass soon enough as the new rules are sorted out, digested and - eventually - understood. Meanwhile, it is good theater - when you aren't the one in the box.
Having myself been hassled, over decades, by quite an array of officious and sometimes seriously threatening frontier (and inland) authorities encountered while traveling, I feel concern for non US-citizens who are being caught on the rough edges of the system during this period of official transition from under-controlling the US frontiers to overcontrolling them.
At this moment in time, the U.S. press seems poised to follow up and crucify any official who is caught being lax or making a bad decision that leaves a trail, so the govt. guys who want to collect their pensions are inclined to err way far on the side of caution.
As most at Pprune likely already understand, being even slightly indignant, threatening, impatient, deceptive or evasive is the best way to set off their alarm bells.
For those who have serious red - flag type issues, whether due to history, birth, or associations, the best insurance against problems is to disclose the sticky bits up front - before the fact, if possible - to relevant authorities and to people or organizations that can subsequently vouch for the disclosure. Of course, for private-minded persons, this can be difficult - for quite legitimate reasons. One can hope that ICAO or some of the U.S. Aviation organizations will eventually get in the loop to help individuals avoid and / or resolve various sorts of potential problems at the border.
Let's try to have a little sense of humor about this. It will pass soon enough as the new rules are sorted out, digested and - eventually - understood. Meanwhile, it is good theater - when you aren't the one in the box.
