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Old 13th Apr 2016, 05:36
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Blue Air comes in hard and fast

Recently the above came over the threshold of 3/3 at BHX. It's suggested he came in hard and fast and as a result a tyre blown and lot of smoke.

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Looks like a perfectly normal landing to me, and all tires are visibly intact as it is taxiing in. More likely a failed brake/antiskid resulting in a momentary locked tire, that puff of smoke looks like a lot of burning rubber. I'm sure the tire needed replacement, that could have been confuse in the reports with a 'blown' tire.
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Normal landing profile it seems, if the tyre had blown the crew would normally wait a few minutes before taxi in and the airport authorities would do a runway inspection. As mentioned perhaps an anti-skid or brake temp problem, nothing sensational here..
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Only speculating - was the far end of the runway coming up too fast?
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Looks normal. You can actually guess high and fast from a video, but it's not this one.
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Looking at the flight history, none of the BMS151/152 turnrounds at BHX seem to have been unduly protracted, so if a wheel change was carried out they must have sourced and fitted one pretty sharpish ...
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No 737 endo required, obviously a normal approach, touched down long, trying to do a greaser.

was the far end of the runway coming up too fast?
Probably!
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if a wheel change was carried out they must have sourced and fitted one pretty sharpish ...
I know of several operators who used to carry a spare in rear of the aft hold for such eventualities, don't know if still practiced by some.
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Fire vehicles look to be "on standby" & he has a vehicle following him, looked like normal touchdown, but that cloud of smoke was far from normal, anti-skid/brake problem I guess.
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Looks OK but what does "3/3" mean?
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 12:23
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He does touch down long - almost halfway down the runway by the look of it. What happens if you override auto braking and stand on the brakes? I am not familiar with the aircraft but presumably it has some sort of anti-skid?

HD - I assume the OP means runway 33.
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 12:29
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ANTI SKID inop perchance? Very very difficult to know if a tires is locked from the flight deck when the ANTI SKID has been MEL'd.
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Not flown the 73 but looking on the web it appears that the autobrake system reaches it's required pressure 3 secs after touchdown (setting 1, 2 and 3) and it appears from the vid that the left brakes appear to lock 3 secs after the second gear touches down.
Can any current 73 drivers confirm this for me?
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Smal Skydrol leak on top of the brakes could produce some...
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Birmingham on 33-possible quartering tailwind is quite usual and the runway falls away from you in the flare.The LDA is not overly long
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LDA is now around 8500ft - it is plenty long enough.
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33 LDA is 2449m/8035ft.
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Is there a link missing? OP is blank.
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http://youtu.be/1uwQ45nPLBQ A4
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R33 used to have a displaced threshold. Is that still the case? Landing looks a little floaty and they landed on the downwind wheel: see windsock in background. No idea what the smoke is. First time seen. The smoke definitely originated on left side of fuselage. It seemed to dispute quickly and the escort vehicle pulled away quickly before the apron. Curious, but seems a puff in a hurricane.
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