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Ryanair's O'leary quoted saying he will break the law

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Old 17th Jun 2002, 13:28
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Thumbs down Ryanair's O'leary quoted saying he will break the law

From this weeks Flight International an article covers Ryanairs growth and the possibility of a new base in France.

It also states that France has a 35 hour working week, but apparently this will not restrict Ryanair as O'Leary says: "We'll break the laws in France if that's what needs to be done."

Odd that O'Leary believes that he is above the law, perhaps even more odd to admit that fact!


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Old 17th Jun 2002, 16:26
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I do not know O'leary's or Ryanairs situation in France, but if he has to break the law, then break the law.
French workers, what a bunch of self centered........
The "bosses" and/or "owners" have basically no rights. The employees have more clout here because of the "socialist" climate that has been impregnanted in their (workers) lives. Great country to live in but things will change eventually. To bad it takes somebody from across the channel to stand up to what is right and wrong. The new government will, I believe, "relax" the 35 Hr. work week in the near future. It has caused some large companies to hire extra people but only because of the incentives that were given by the last PM. When these subsidies end, the sh*t will hit the fan again. So much for fair trading practices!!!
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MOL is no exception. There is already an Irish Company operating in France at CDG. Where they work 55 hrs in a 7 day period on a regular basis ie. they obey the IAA FTDL. 14 hr days, unending early starts. Minimum days off, 7 in 28 x 2 then the third 28 day period runs into leave - therefore you achieve the average required etc. etc. etc. All this at a pay rate LESS than MOL's. Hate the idea of the man, but there ARE worse.
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But he’s already doing that in England...

MOLs got the Irish authorities in his pocket, allowing what would be a TOTALLY illegal and impossible 'zeroing' of a crews 900 hours limit already.


But what the heck, as you say, he’s above the law.

I’m not anti Ryan Air at all, just anti imbecile.

PS Anybody fancy having a whip round to buy the poor chap some new rags? Do you really know how stupid you look Mike?
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After his recent share sale MOL can probably afford to buy his own clobber.

Actually, taking to the main point of the thread, he would do us a favour in ignoring French rules. Perhaps CAA et al would then have the backbone to follow suit with regard to the over-60 rule.
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O'Leary if you are short of a 737 driver then give me a call! I always did like France in the summer time!


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As an ATSA who works in "Flight Planning", if I get a [slot bust] Reroute on a Rynanair Flight, am I "Legally" entitled to ignore said reroute? OR obliged to do my chuffin' job?
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy
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Old 18th Jun 2002, 00:51
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Alapt and others

"I do not know O'leary's or Ryanairs situation in France, but if he has to break the law, then break the law."

I'm rather staggered by these type of opinions.

What sort of society have we created where people believe that it is justifiable to break the law in any country in order to achieve financial gain?

No offence was meant to any employees of that sad Irishman by the way. I have, like most of us, respect for for the professional conduct of his flight crew. I wish them well despite him.


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Perhaps the French authorities will take notice of this lawless, arrogant blabbering and be the first to stand up to this chancer and shut him down when he breaks the law.

Perhaps then others will follow suit, and our industry will be a far better place for it.

Fat chance!
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Could it be that some here are just annoyed that MOL just happens to own an airline that actually makes a profit?
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Old 18th Jun 2002, 08:18
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411a,

The 'low cost' carriers have proved to be very successfull here in the U.K. Those airlines management and their employees deserve the credit for that. I am pleased that the consumer has been given real value for money and I'm also pleased for all that extra employment opportunity has been created.

In the light of the low cost formula success most of the major European carriers have been forced to re-evaluate how they do business; this again is good news for the consumer and in the long term will be good news for the employees of those carriers

Nevertheless breaking the law in order to gain an unfair financial advantage over your competition is immoral and should not be condoned.


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Wrong yet again, 411A. Most people I know dislike Ryanair because of everything he stands for. I have nothing against low-cost airlines as such. I would leap at the chance of a job with Go or easyJet.

On this latest story, for those such as alapt who think breaking a law you disagree with is acceptable, where do we stop? Does alapt only accept laws which were not passed by Socialist governments?
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So when was it announced that the new EU base would be in France anyway ??
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Before too many people get on their high horses regarding 'law breaking' in France, if European Union Directives can be considered law, then the French nation is one of the biggest collective felons around.
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Ryanair is already breaking the law in several european countries including UK (to pay for an interview is illegal in UK)
Many passengers have legal proceedings against FR.
One day MOL will push his luck and his political acquaintances too far and burn his wings.
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"Ryanair is already breaking the law in several european countries including UK (to pay for an interview is illegal in UK)"

Skysherrif - aren't the interviews held in Ireland?
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So you are all obviously keen to see Mr O Leary fail. Who then will step in to pay you your grossly inflated salary's, allowances pensions etc? If you don't like what the man is doing then stop whinging and put your money where your mouth is and start your own pilot friendly airline and put him out of business. No chance though, that would take enterprise, initiative, risk and of course balls.
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