Short field operations

[Johnm]

Does anyone know of an aircraft with up to 40 seats that can operate (probably not fully laden) out 1000metres of runway? Something with performance and capacity between a Twotter and a Saab 340 is the expected answer, I haven't found one despite a fair bit of searching.

[Phileas Fogg]

DHC7 (50 seats) but there ain't many around.

[Johnm]

I agree and if someone can find an aircraft bigger than a 340 that can operate out of 1000 metres I'll be a bit suprised

[Phileas Fogg]

DHC7? .....

[Johnm]

I think it's the only one but as you say obsolescent and rare

[Phileas Fogg]

OK then, the earlier versions of the DHC8 ... Are you a bit surprised yet?

[Johnm]

Now I'm surprised I would have expected about 1200 metres for a Dash 8

[chevvron]

Junkers Ju52

[Phileas Fogg]

Only after they stretched the DHC8 did it need more runway, the early DHC8's seated 36 or more and could do it from a 3,000ft runway.

[Johnm]

Chevvron is having a laugh I assume, but they did use Herons and Doves into the 1960s as it happens.........

[Phileas Fogg]

Get on to Air France, one of these would do the job

[con-pilot]

Turbine powered DC-3?

Don't know if you can get 40 passenger seats in one however.

[siftydog]

HS Andover. 40 something pax, a couple still operating in Africa I think.

[xtypeman]

ATR 42 the -300 operated off Plymouth with reasonable load better than the Dash 8 upto 40 pax to DUB and full load to CWL.

[munster]

44 passengers, No runway required.Model 234 Chinook

[bpilot52]

HS Andover C1 is the correct answer. Doing STOL (not perf A) with water meth injection we could use 1000 FEET. Anguilla was - if I remember right - about 750 ft of tarmac with a baked mud over-run. I usually stopped on the tarmac full of metropolitan police with baggage and beer to keep them going.
6 degree approach and full reverse before touchdown.

[bpilot52]

Hi Jenkins
No. Turned on the strip ok.
The narrow one was Barbuda. Just 18 inches outside each mainwheel and a deep shoulder to the runway. Open the back door/ and talk sweetly to the loadmaster. Then, as you know, it was all or nothing reverse to return to the threshold for t/o. Runway was long for us -cannot remember exactly - maybe 2500ft but with the narrow width that produced a very odd approach feeling much higher than we really were. B

[skerry]

The Antonov An-72/74 would do the job...though it carries more than forty pax. Upper Surface Blowing and the Coanda effect, lovely aeroplane.

[Agaricus bisporus]

44 passengers, No runway required.Model 234 Chinook

Far from requiring "no runway" a laden BV234 actually required more runway than the Dash8 on t/o iirc. Unst could be limiting!

Munster, helicopter performance is not quite as simple as you imagine it to be...