Hard landing?
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Daily Mail territory this. Hard landing my 
Firm maybe but there are those that have and those that lie that they haven't. If it was 3.6g he would've at least dropped his recording/pressmoneymaking device.
A pointless and desperate for real news article.
Firm maybe but there are those that have and those that lie that they haven't. If it was 3.6g he would've at least dropped his recording/pressmoneymaking device.A pointless and desperate for real news article.
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Pax view but their response of "urggggh!" isn't the way to treat customers LoCo or not
What utter utter ignorance of aviation we can see here.
Perfectly good landing in the right place at the right speed. Nobody has any business criticising it at all.
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"The hardest i've ever seen (not one of mine!) was a 1.56, and that felt like a controlled crash. So go figure what a 3.6 would look like."
This is true. I have felt a couple of g-s (if that) in tight turns. I'm a pretty short guy but still felt like my face was being pulled off.
This is true. I have felt a couple of g-s (if that) in tight turns. I'm a pretty short guy but still felt like my face was being pulled off.
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The poster might benefit from a quick google search on two terms. The first one is a "firm landing" and the other is a "hard landing".
The former being a regular occurrence, particularly so on mucky days where we are aiming for a positive contact with terra firma to ensure the desired braking action is achieved on a wet track.
The latter involves an engineering inspection and possible rectification work to the aircraft, report writing and the possibility of tea and biscuits with someone in Flight Ops management followed by retraining (if your lucky) or cessation of employment.
The former being a regular occurrence, particularly so on mucky days where we are aiming for a positive contact with terra firma to ensure the desired braking action is achieved on a wet track.
The latter involves an engineering inspection and possible rectification work to the aircraft, report writing and the possibility of tea and biscuits with someone in Flight Ops management followed by retraining (if your lucky) or cessation of employment.
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Here we go. Another chance to use this fine clip!
This is a hard landing.
Don't what G it pulled, but they were sweeping out tooth fillings for weeks. The frame was a write off.
This is a hard landing.
Don't what G it pulled, but they were sweeping out tooth fillings for weeks. The frame was a write off.
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2.99G - undercarriage written off at Luton
Air Accidents Investigation: Airbus A319-111, G-EZFV
Flight Global article goes on about side sticks and priority/control logic issues on Airbus again but nothing about shouting "I have control!" early on when taking over for a go-around? Not just relying on a push button and an illuminated arrow?
To PNF's credit he did use those words eventually but 4 secs of battling with side sticks beforehand at 30 feet not ideal !
"Below 30 ft, over the runway, both pilots sensed that
the aircraft was sinking rapidly and both initiated a
TOGA 102 go-around. The PF momentarily retarded
the thrust levers to idle before advancing them to the
TOGA (Takeoff and Go-around) position. At the same
time, he made a full forward sidestick input, within
one second, which was then rapidly reversed to full
aft sidestick. As the PF made the forward sidestick
input, the commander initiated an aft sidestick input
which reached the full aft position within one second.
He followed through the PF, pushing the thrust levers
fully forward and announced “I HAVE CONTROL”. The
aircraft made firm contact with the runway, on all three
landing gear legs simultaneously, before lifting off and
starting to climb. During this phase the PF relinquished
control and reverted to the PNF role."
Flight Global article goes on about side sticks and priority/control logic issues on Airbus again but nothing about shouting "I have control!" early on when taking over for a go-around? Not just relying on a push button and an illuminated arrow?
To PNF's credit he did use those words eventually but 4 secs of battling with side sticks beforehand at 30 feet not ideal !
"Below 30 ft, over the runway, both pilots sensed that
the aircraft was sinking rapidly and both initiated a
TOGA 102 go-around. The PF momentarily retarded
the thrust levers to idle before advancing them to the
TOGA (Takeoff and Go-around) position. At the same
time, he made a full forward sidestick input, within
one second, which was then rapidly reversed to full
aft sidestick. As the PF made the forward sidestick
input, the commander initiated an aft sidestick input
which reached the full aft position within one second.
He followed through the PF, pushing the thrust levers
fully forward and announced “I HAVE CONTROL”. The
aircraft made firm contact with the runway, on all three
landing gear legs simultaneously, before lifting off and
starting to climb. During this phase the PF relinquished
control and reverted to the PNF role."
