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Old 7th Aug 2012, 12:25
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VC10 type aircraft with winglets

Must have been a 727 surely. Aircraft from Bahrain, Ivory Coast and Peter Nygaards own machine have been in and out of STN lately and have winglets.
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winglets

Until now-maybe!.
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As I have said I would recognise a B727,maybe with the bank angle I presumed the engines were all on the fuselage sides,definitely had winglets and T-tail.
So more than likely a B727 or possibly a IL-64 whilst banked(ailerons up/down) mistaken as winglets? or a special IL-64 with winglets(LOT,Cuban,Eastern European,North Korean etc).
Thanks to everyone for all the input and ideas
Next time I will have my camera at the ready.
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Special IL-64?!

Fustall - make sure you DO have your camera ready for when you next see an IL-64 It would be a VERY special plane indeed

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The two IL-62s can be ruled out, just had a quick look at Stansted WebTrak and neither went anywhere near the OP's location either inbound or outbound.
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There was also a Slovak Tupolev. No winglets though! Same day after 1930.
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I have been thinking on the same lines,possibly a TU-154 with winglets??
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Fustall, your size estimate would put it bang int glex/gulfstream teritory.
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Funny you should mention the Gulfstream,my brother T21 said it's probably that
Just looked at the G650,100ft wingspan approx.
The aircraft I saw just looked bigger ie VC10 size,I cannot scale the G650 from the photo's on Gulfstreams site,also they only seat up to 8 PAX.
Does anyone have any Gulfstream movements at the back-end of last week,probably going into Luton or Cranfield,as the height when seen was approx 3-4000ft.
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Based on the reportedly observed features so far:

"looked like a VC10 with winglets"

"looks as if the Bombadier might be the one"

"large, ie not a Gulfstream, Bombardier, Bizjet type"

"I am sure I saw four engines like on a VC10"

"Definitely not a B727"

"more than likely a B727"

"four engines, T-tail and winglets"

"approx 100ft wingspan, 100ft fuselage"

"possibly a TU-154 with winglets"
My money's on a Ryanair 737.
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@DaveReid
I started this thread because I was not sure what I had seen!I am familiar with most types of A/C as I come from an Aviation orientated background that spans 54 years(I was born on RAF Leeming camp!).
I am an ex glider pilot too,also flew many times with my late Father in 1-11's,B727's.
Yes there are lots of contradictions,maybe this is due to a 10-15 second glimpse, of a yet to be identified aircraft.
If you cannot come up with some positive remarks may I suggest you go and troll on another thread.
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Yes there are lots of contradictions, maybe this is due to a 10-15 second glimpse, of a yet to be identified aircraft.
I don't have any problem with your inability to ID the aircraft, I probably couldn't have either, based on such a brief glimpse.

But then nor would have I expected anyone else to come up with an identity if I was only able to give them a vague description, and no information at all as to timings.

If it helps, your current theory of a Gulfstream going into Luton is as likely as any - GLF4s/GLF5s are a common sight there, but that unfortunately means you are unlikely to be able to pin it down to a specific movement.
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This may shed some light?

Found this scouring the Web:-
Odd LCA with no markings at Moffett Federal Airfield: I need help for ident, page 1
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Interesting the poster can identify the manufacturer of the winglets on the mystery plane but not the plane itself!
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Old 21st Aug 2012, 13:57
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saw one today!!

Around 10.20 this morning on approach to BHX RWY 15 over Erdington Birmingham, 4 rear mounted engines, high T tail and winglets, looked like a VC10 to me...
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Can't wait to see the first pic.of this aircraft,hurry up guys and get cracking with your camera's.
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Around 10.20 this morning on approach to BHX RWY 15 over Erdington Birmingham, 4 rear mounted engines, high T tail and winglets, looked like a VC10 to me...

Quite a few of these at BHX everyday....

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4 rear mounted engines, high T tail and winglets, looked like a VC10 to me...
Are you sure you posted the right Flickr link?
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Are you sure you posted the right Flickr link?
Yes, cos there ain't no such beast as a:-

4 rear mounted engines, high T tail and winglets, looked like a VC10 to me...
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Groundloop - understood now - if you'd put the AJH52 comment in quotes the first time I'd have understood before
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