Looking for ADS-B Data Sharing Providing Free Receivers/Antennas
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Hi all,
My name is Fredrik Lindahl and Im part of the team behind the FlightRadar24.com website/iPhone app/Android app.
Our goal is to provide truly global coverage for our live airplane traffic service. We already have several hundred volunteers around the world that supply us with data, but we are always looking for more contributors.
We are currently focusing much of our attention on expanding our coverage in North America and we have receivers and antennas available primarily for North American locations where we lack coverage today.
If you are interested in our free equipment offer, please dont hesitate to contact me at [email protected]. The supply is limited but we will try to accommodate as many as possible.
If you already have ADS-B equipment and want to share data with us, please see Flightradar24.com - Watch live air traffic! for how you can contribute.
If you have any other questions or need further information, dont hesitate to contact me.
Thanks,
Fredrik Lindahl
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Flightradar24.com - Live Flight Tracker!
Hi all,
My name is Fredrik Lindahl and Im part of the team behind the FlightRadar24.com website/iPhone app/Android app.
Our goal is to provide truly global coverage for our live airplane traffic service. We already have several hundred volunteers around the world that supply us with data, but we are always looking for more contributors.
We are currently focusing much of our attention on expanding our coverage in North America and we have receivers and antennas available primarily for North American locations where we lack coverage today.
If you are interested in our free equipment offer, please dont hesitate to contact me at [email protected]. The supply is limited but we will try to accommodate as many as possible.
If you already have ADS-B equipment and want to share data with us, please see Flightradar24.com - Watch live air traffic! for how you can contribute.
If you have any other questions or need further information, dont hesitate to contact me.
Thanks,
Fredrik Lindahl
[email protected]
Flightradar24.com - Live Flight Tracker!
Dear Mr Lindahl,
You are currently showing on your website a lot of air traffic over the UK. If you are receiving that information from "volunteers" with ADS-B receivers in the UK, are you aware that those "volunteers" are actually acting illegally under UK law?
You are currently showing on your website a lot of air traffic over the UK. If you are receiving that information from "volunteers" with ADS-B receivers in the UK, are you aware that those "volunteers" are actually acting illegally under UK law?
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Whats the point of your post ?
This chap is asking for help in the USA.
Yes its illegal to make use of information received (don't remember the exact term) and probably uploading mode s data to the www is technically illegal, but so is listening to Airband and for that matter so is doing 40mph in a 30 zone.
Are you telling me that you have never broke the speed limit ? Thought not ! get a life & leave the guy alone.
Whats the point of your post ?
This chap is asking for help in the USA.
Yes its illegal to make use of information received (don't remember the exact term) and probably uploading mode s data to the www is technically illegal, but so is listening to Airband and for that matter so is doing 40mph in a 30 zone.
Are you telling me that you have never broke the speed limit ? Thought not ! get a life & leave the guy alone.
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Regarding the legal situation in the UK, my interpretation is that although it is not illegal to sell, buy or own a scanning or other receiver in the UK, it must only be used to listen to transmissions meant for GENERAL RECEPTION. And (again, my interpretation I'm not aware of any legal precedent) ADS-B transmissions, are just that, meant for general reception.
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Fredrik,
It is illegal to operate an ADS B receiver in the United Kingdom. Unless each of your contributors is authorized by the secretary of state?
48Interception and disclosure of messages
(1)A person commits an offence if, otherwise than under the authority of a designated person
(a)he uses wireless telegraphy apparatus with intent to obtain information as to the contents, sender or addressee of a message (whether sent by means of wireless telegraphy or not) of which neither he nor a person on whose behalf he is acting is an intended recipient, or
(b)he discloses information as to the contents, sender or addressee of such a message.
(2)A person commits an offence under this section consisting in the disclosure of information only if the information disclosed by him is information that would not have come to his knowledge but for the use of wireless telegraphy apparatus by him or by another person.
(3)A person does not commit an offence under this section consisting in the disclosure of information if he discloses the information in the course of legal proceedings or for the purpose of a report of legal proceedings.
(4)A person who commits an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale.
(5)Designated person means
(a)the Secretary of State;
(b)the Commissioners for Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs; or
(c)any other person designated for the purposes of this section by regulations made by the Secretary of State.
It is illegal to operate an ADS B receiver in the United Kingdom. Unless each of your contributors is authorized by the secretary of state?
48Interception and disclosure of messages
(1)A person commits an offence if, otherwise than under the authority of a designated person
(a)he uses wireless telegraphy apparatus with intent to obtain information as to the contents, sender or addressee of a message (whether sent by means of wireless telegraphy or not) of which neither he nor a person on whose behalf he is acting is an intended recipient, or
(b)he discloses information as to the contents, sender or addressee of such a message.
(2)A person commits an offence under this section consisting in the disclosure of information only if the information disclosed by him is information that would not have come to his knowledge but for the use of wireless telegraphy apparatus by him or by another person.
(3)A person does not commit an offence under this section consisting in the disclosure of information if he discloses the information in the course of legal proceedings or for the purpose of a report of legal proceedings.
(4)A person who commits an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale.
(5)Designated person means
(a)the Secretary of State;
(b)the Commissioners for Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs; or
(c)any other person designated for the purposes of this section by regulations made by the Secretary of State.
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Re ADS-B
I have just found the following link about this system. How true it is I am not expert enough to say but it made me wonder a bit.
ADS-B ... Terrorist's Dream, Security's Nightmare
The most worrying part starts from :-
This is Who I Am - This is Where I Am
I expect that I will get some grief about this but I feel it is worth bringing up anyway.
ADS-B ... Terrorist's Dream, Security's Nightmare
The most worrying part starts from :-
This is Who I Am - This is Where I Am
I expect that I will get some grief about this but I feel it is worth bringing up anyway.
And (again, my interpretation I'm not aware of any legal precedent) ADS-B transmissions, are just that, meant for general reception.
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Dear FlightRadar24, in the interest of FR24 I seriously recommend that you delete your post and not draw any further attention to yourself. Most aviation professional and enthusiasts around the world love FR24. However, it may be in your interest to remain as low profile as possible and not encourage all those holier-than-thou individuals to bite.
I have just found the following link about this system. How true it is I am
not expert enough to say but it made me wonder a bit.
ADS-B ... Terrorist's Dream, Security's Nightmare
The most worrying part starts from :-
This is Who I Am
- This is Where I Am
I expect that I will get some
grief about this but I feel it is worth bringing up anyway.
Most aviation professional and enthusiasts around the world love FR24
Most aviation professionals I know hate FR24. Every time an aircraft has a minor problem that involves a turnback or diversion they get bombarded with silly questions or, worse, the media gets hold of it.
those holier-than-thou individuals to bite.
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Most aviation professionals I know hate FR24. Every time an aircraft has a minor problem that involves a turnback or diversion they get bombarded with silly questions or, worse, the media gets hold of it.
Well, I'm an aviation professional and I have fun with it, not to mention finding it useful at times. So do many of my colleagues. The silly questions and media aspect you mention can be annoying I grant you, but having no SBS wouldn't deter them. I can recall reading a great deal of nonsense in the press and "silly" questions in PPRuNe long before SBS existed.
If politely pointing out the law makes one holier-than-thou then so be it!
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I just think that those operating the website should of done some research before placing the information from the UK online.
Much the same as liveatc.net did, finding that it is ILLEGAL to receive this information in the UK.
Everytime an aircraft has a tiny incident, it is now front page news and exaggerated. Most of this is detected by things like flightradar 24.
Much the same as liveatc.net did, finding that it is ILLEGAL to receive this information in the UK.
Everytime an aircraft has a tiny incident, it is now front page news and exaggerated. Most of this is detected by things like flightradar 24.
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I just think that those operating the website should of done some research before placing the information from the UK online.
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango
With all due respect, would it not irritate you if I politely pointed out the law to you every time you exceeded the speed limit for example.
The holier-than-thou attitude, or perhaps more accurately above-the-law attitude, seems to reside with those who knowingly disregard the law because they find it interesting or amusing and because they can.
They also seem to become rather testy rather quickly when reminded of this.
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One Outsider, are you sure that you're not the one getting "testy"? The argument you use is in my opinion flawed. There is actually no law in the UK that states you cannot own an SBS unit. There might indeed be a law concerning its operation. Likewise, whilst you may legally own a vehicle, you are required to comply with all laws regarding its operation. Do you do this WITHOUT fail? And that is my point, if people want to preach to others about, for instance, legal breaches by SBS users they should first consider at just how many legal transgressions they make in their day-to-day lives. Many dismiss speeding as a minor offence. SBS doesn't kill. Speeding does!
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