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Old 18th Jan 2012, 16:48
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Note that the expression "wing down" wasn't used by me. With controlled slip the bank angle should not be more than 2 degrees. Haven't flown the 747 but otherwise have found controlled slip works for everything between DH82 and B767.
Just feel sorry for all the poor sods who have had their morale shattered by being told that "kick off drift" is the way to go. Let's face it, the word "kick" should not figure in the vocabulary of a professional pilot in connection with aeroplanes.
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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 22:36
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Agree with scotbill. No one ever "kicks" anything on the 747, or any big aeroplane for that matter. Apart from maybe the tyres on the walk round if you want to look like a complete spanner.

You 'squeeze' in the rudder progressivley in the flare to reduce the crab angle at touchdown controlling the natural tendency of the wing to lift with the aileron. The 747 is designed to land with the drift angle but it doesn't feel very nice and it can't be good for the undercarridge with such high side loads. The autopilot will actually apply a very small wing down input in a crosswind autoland, but you are taught not to drop a wing ever because as has been said before you will scrape the outboard pod with a very small bank angle. Infact, if you land F30 you will touch the flaps on the ground as well if you drop a wing.

Controlled slip works as well, but in very strong crosswinds you can't control the drift of the aeroplane across the runway with more wing down....like what I did on two engine jets. Else it will end in tears (and a 'tea no biscuits' interview with the chief).

Having said that, the 747 lands beautifully with a very small bank angle applied at touchdown.
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