Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Spectators Balcony (Spotters Corner)
Reload this Page >

A332 - Runway length for Take-Off

Wikiposts
Search
Spectators Balcony (Spotters Corner) If you're not a professional pilot but want to discuss issues about the job, this is the best place to loiter. You won't be moved on by 'security' and there'll be plenty of experts to answer any questions.

A332 - Runway length for Take-Off

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 15th Nov 2010, 12:56
  #1 (permalink)  
JEP
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Denmark
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A332 - Runway length for Take-Off

As my PPL has made me the "aviation expert" in the family, I get all sorts of questions and with christmas parties comming up I need help on this one.

Why do the european carriers (Brussels and KLM) servicing Kigali, Rwanda make a stop in Nairobi or Entebbe ? Is it:
1) To fill the plane with passengers.
2) The runway at Kigali (3500 mtrs - elev: 4900' - temp: 20-25°C) is too short for a full aircraft to depart with fuel for Brussels or Amsterdam - so they need the longer runways at Nairobi and Entebbe
3) Facillites (or lack of) for the crew laying over.
4) Fuel prices at Kigali, as the fuel has to be trucked a looong way.

1) and 3) depends on the actual situation, but can anyone clarify on 2) ?
JEP is offline  
Old 15th Nov 2010, 22:09
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: London UK
Posts: 7,659
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 16 Posts
I would think that bulk fuel availability, let alone price, at Kigali may be the most likely issue. This happens elsewhere in Africa as well.

Nairobi is higher than Kigali.
WHBM is online now  
Old 17th Nov 2010, 06:31
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK, sometimes USA
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Could be the same reason KLM never used to night-stop in Lima. i.e. the crews wouldn't stay in Lima due to safety fears. They used to lay over in the sunny caribbean and due a Bonaire-Lima-Bonaire sector instead.

How secure is Kigali ?
airsmiles is offline  
Old 17th Nov 2010, 12:11
  #4 (permalink)  
JEP
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Denmark
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
WHBM: oh yes - I did not think of fuel availability and resulting pricing.
With 8-9 weekly flights each uplifting 50 ? tonnes - you would need quite a convoy to haul the fuel from the east coast (Mombasa or Dar I assume).

I would not consider Kigali insecure - not more than Kampala, Nairobi or certain parts of Copenhagen - but I don't know if there are suitable hotels (quiet enough for sleeping during the day for a night flight) available.
JEP is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.