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BA 747 makes emergency landing at YVR shortly after takeoff

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Old 13th Nov 2010, 20:26
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BA 747 makes emergency landing at YVR shortly after takeoff

here's a shining example of great journalism - lol

Plane makes emergency landing in Vancouver
A London-bound plane made an emergency landing at Vancouver International Airport early Saturday morning.

The British Airways flight landed safely just after 2:00 a.m. local time after reporting a potential engine problem, said Kate Donegani, spokeswoman for the Vancouver Airport Authority.

" (The pilot) took off . . . and there was an engine surge in his number one engine, and he decided to shut it down and return to Vancouver," said British Airways spokesman John Lampl.

The Boeing 747, carrying 262 people, left the airport just before midnight.

All passengers left the plane safe and without injury, but will now be delayed overnight.

Lampl said this kind of landing is uncommon because modern engines are so reliable.

"It's like driving on the highway, once in a blue moon you get a flat tire."

Donegani said the last emergency landing at the airport was approximately a month ago.

"Across the industry standby landings aren't uncommon," she said. "Ninety-nine per cent of the time it is a minor issue, but just in case we have our emergency services respond."

The airport's specialized aircraft firefighters and Richmond Fire Rescue Services were on scene Saturday morning

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What's wrong with it?
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Yes - pretty good, I thought. (A shining example, in fact. ) Not often a journo uses "surge" believably.
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I think it reads quite well... People involved in aviation may think it is a little simple, but that is what the public at large will understand.

Better than many other news items pertaining to aviation floating around.
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Shock/horror...the airplanre returned for landing after an engine problem...instead of pressing on to LHR, regardless.
Maybe...just maybe, BA has learned from past inappropriate actions.
Maybe.
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Do you remember the FAA formally apologising to BA for their remarks and conduct to BA after the LA flight. I do.

FWIW the high terrain beyond YVR may have precluded continuation due to two engine drift down limitations. The 747 is a 'go minded' aircraft, as Boeing designed it to be.

Maybe when you graduate to four engine aircraft you'll get the appropriate training.
Maybe.

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Engine trouble forces London-bound plane to make emergency landing in Vancouver
- A London-bound British Airways flight made an emergency landing at Vancouver International Airport early Saturday morning after experiencing engine trouble.At close to 1 a.m., as the Boeing 747-400 neared the airspace over Jasper National Park, one of the plane's four Rolls Royce RB211 engines began vibrating abnormally, British Airways spokesman John Lampl said.
"About half an hour into the flight, the flight crew detected an engine surge, which is like a backfire in a car," he said.
"They followed the normal procedure, shut the engine down and returned back to Vancouver."
BC Ambulance, Richmond Fire and Rescue Services, and the airport's emergency airfield service were alerted to the emergency landing as a precaution, said Vancouver Airport Authority spokeswoman Kate Donegani.
At around 2:15 a.m. the aircraft operations team had reported that the aircraft had landed safely, she said.
The plane taxied back to a gate and all 262 passengers walked off, Donegani said.
By 3 a.m. the incident was over, she said.
The passengers were accomodated in hotels, Lampl said. British Airways would either arrange to place them on flights with other carriers or on later BA flights.
The next direct flight to London from Vancouver on British Airways is at 8:40 p.m. Saturday night, on the same type of aircraft, a Boeing 747-400.
Last week, trouble in a Rolls Royce RB211-524G engine in a 747-400 flown by Qantas forced the emergency landing of a Sydney-bound flight in Singapore.
Lampl confirmed that the engine used in all of British Airways' 747-400 planes is also the Rolls Royce RB211 model, but stressed that the two incidents are unrelated: "One has nothing to do with the other," he said.
"Our engineers are looking into it, but our engines are very very reliable. This kind of thing doesn't happen often at all."
The RB211-524G engine model used in the place has been in use by British Airways for about 20 years. There is no record of ongoing issues with this engine model, Lampl said.
"Safety is paramount. It will never be compromised. We wouldn't be flying these airplanes with these engines if there were [compromised]."
The British Airways 747-400 in Saturday's incident has been grounded in Vancouver. It will either get an full engine swap with a spare sent from British Airways' headquarters in London, or it will be flown back to the maintenance facilities at Heathrow on two engines and without passengers.
The Vancouver Airport Authority doesn't track the number of emergency or turn-backs that occur but they aren't uncommon, Donegani said.
"The majority of the time, it can be a minor problem, such as a light burned out on a control."
British Airways flight BA084 had originally been scheduled to depart at 8:30 p.m. on Friday night but didn't leave the gate until 11:55 p.m.
It took off at 12:14 a.m. on Saturday, according to tracking information on flightaware.com.
Lampl said the delay was not caused by engine trouble.
"There was a technical problem with a cargo door that wouldn't close
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it will be flown back to the maintenance facilities at Heathrow on two engines and without passengers.
I hope not!

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it will be flown back to the maintenance facilities at Heathrow on two engines and without passengers.
I hope not!

Dave
I was thinking the same thing and it wasn't about the number of passengers.
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Maybe when you graduate to four engine aircraft you'll get the appropriate training.
LOL...I expect that I was flying four engine jet aircraft while you were still in short pants...
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just cuz you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do something

I'm with 411A on this one.
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If three engine ferry flights in the B747 are approved by Boeing and the engine manufacturer, what's the big deal? By that logic, those of us who are crossing the pond on two engines (hundreds of times a day) must be plum loco.
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three engine ferry flights are without passengers

ok.let's drop it
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..those of us who are crossing the pond on two engines (hundreds of times a day) must be plum loco.
Well, yes.
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What's wrong with it
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A London-bound plane made an emergency landing at Vancouver International Airport
Where was the emergency, that's what's wrong with it.

This type of drama reporting reduces aviation safety as it's alarmist and could influence some individuals into pressing on so as to avoid bad press and don't say we are all too professional for that because I know we arn't.
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FWIW the high terrain beyond YVR may have precluded continuation due to two engine drift down limitations. The 747 is a 'go minded' aircraft, as Boeing designed it to be.

I agree with Locked Door on this one. If it was a surge then I would have respected the Captain's decision to carry on to LHR. Lets face it, if the extremenly unlikely occurence happened of another engine shut down, then nothing to stop him starting up the other one, it only seemed to be a precautionary shutdown. Either way the Captain did right because he is just that.....the Captain.

And yes I believe the FAA did retract their initial comments about LAX so Cessna 411 should really wind his neck in
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4 vs 2

Memorable conversation between a 777 captain (me) and a much more experienced 747 captain some years ago -

Me : Richard, why do you like 4 eng aircraft so much?

Him : Because they don't make one with 5........


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well, I'd

call that progress if BA finally returns to the departure airport in such a case and do not stretch it with three motors AND PAX onboard from the West Coast to the UK..

the folks at BA seem to have learned their lesson..
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A bit of a silly comment. Are you 411A in disguise?
And why exactly are they 'stretching it'?
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Originally Posted by 777boyo

Me : Richard, why do you like 4 eng aircraft so much?

Him : Because they don't make one with 5........
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