What do the number writers do with the information they collect?
Simonchowder, give it up mate. The only skill you display is that of being a complete and total plonker.
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I feel that trolling takes even less effort, but everyone to there own.
Come on chowder, even you can surely follow numbers, like a plane spotter
, to be able to do painting by numbers, modelling has numbers to follow to construct, fishing is perhaps highly intellectual skill? Deciding which river has which fish, or not, then deciding bait.
My latest skill for collecting numbers is to co-join the hobby by actually fliying to different airports to catch different regs, but sometimes I meet workers in the airport who have no interest in the aircraft, the crews, the passengers and even their own colleague´s......... strange!
They just seem to take pleasure out of berating the people who ultimately feed the pay packets....
I am not a "full time" spotter, but I take pleasure from sitting in beer gardens, on beach´s etc to watch aircraft, therefore I need people like check-in personel, pilots, CC, dispatchers to be there to allow me to travel to conduct my hobby.
Some of the above have no idea how grateful people are for "friendly and knowledgable" staff....
ie: For gods sake chowder, SHUT UP about spotters, it is just SO BORING AND CHILDISH!
I feel your life is so sad because if this is the best you can do, even "a thick, lowlife spotter" like me can actually look down on you!
Come on chowder, even you can surely follow numbers, like a plane spotter
, to be able to do painting by numbers, modelling has numbers to follow to construct, fishing is perhaps highly intellectual skill? Deciding which river has which fish, or not, then deciding bait.My latest skill for collecting numbers is to co-join the hobby by actually fliying to different airports to catch different regs, but sometimes I meet workers in the airport who have no interest in the aircraft, the crews, the passengers and even their own colleague´s......... strange!
They just seem to take pleasure out of berating the people who ultimately feed the pay packets....
I am not a "full time" spotter, but I take pleasure from sitting in beer gardens, on beach´s etc to watch aircraft, therefore I need people like check-in personel, pilots, CC, dispatchers to be there to allow me to travel to conduct my hobby.
Some of the above have no idea how grateful people are for "friendly and knowledgable" staff....
ie: For gods sake chowder, SHUT UP about spotters, it is just SO BORING AND CHILDISH!
I feel your life is so sad because if this is the best you can do, even "a thick, lowlife spotter" like me can actually look down on you!
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The surprising thing about simonchowder is that he seems to be immune to the same rules as everyone else and remains on here.
Those who are intolerant of other's hobbies must be intolerant in other aspects of their lives.
Anyway, since when did hobbies require skill as a prerequisite? Collecting numbers, stamps, coins, beermats, Beatles memorabilia, antiques are all hobbies but don't require "skill" as such. Some hobbies require skill, some don't - same as jobs eh simon? That's probably beyond you as well though.
Those who are intolerant of other's hobbies must be intolerant in other aspects of their lives.
Anyway, since when did hobbies require skill as a prerequisite? Collecting numbers, stamps, coins, beermats, Beatles memorabilia, antiques are all hobbies but don't require "skill" as such. Some hobbies require skill, some don't - same as jobs eh simon? That's probably beyond you as well though.
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In your case, personal insults seem second nature to you. Your patronizing posts are in fact very insulting to many on here and despite many attempts and reports of your posts, you keep coming back. You do not obey the rules and yet seem to get away with it.
BTW, I am not likely to disappear, losing the ability to post on Pprune is not going to have a great affect on my life, especially when Pprune tolerates the likes of you.
I'll get back to my hobbies and leave you to yours, whatever that may be.
BTW, I am not likely to disappear, losing the ability to post on Pprune is not going to have a great affect on my life, especially when Pprune tolerates the likes of you.
I'll get back to my hobbies and leave you to yours, whatever that may be.
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Leave Simon alone, it's obvious he has trouble finding the right thread.
Here it is old boy: http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4198...e-maccuse.html
Here it is old boy: http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4198...e-maccuse.html
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when i was a lad we used to "collect" things like matchbox cars,hot wheels, airfix models,subbuteo teams,and the like, never knowing that if they stayed in the box's now'er days they would be worth a mint.
my dad (an ex raf avro anson pilot) still keeps in touch with some of his old buddies and they send and swap stamps from all over world, some might be worth a few quid after all these years,i have no interest in them what so ever.i dont collect reg numbers off aircraft or bus'es etc.
but i love walking my dog's down the back lanes near manchester airport, watching the aircraft takeoff and land, and yep i love the smell of jet fuel,and chatting to the "spotters" all who are very friendly.
my point is each to thier own, no one is doing any harm by plane spotting.
SIMONCHOWDER i think you or suffering some kind of illness,where you feel the need to berate and belittle people who carry out such pass times,
why else would you continue to post on a forum that you have no interest in,please seek some medical help,all the best for a speedy recovery, get well soon ph.
my dad (an ex raf avro anson pilot) still keeps in touch with some of his old buddies and they send and swap stamps from all over world, some might be worth a few quid after all these years,i have no interest in them what so ever.i dont collect reg numbers off aircraft or bus'es etc.
but i love walking my dog's down the back lanes near manchester airport, watching the aircraft takeoff and land, and yep i love the smell of jet fuel,and chatting to the "spotters" all who are very friendly.
my point is each to thier own, no one is doing any harm by plane spotting.
SIMONCHOWDER i think you or suffering some kind of illness,where you feel the need to berate and belittle people who carry out such pass times,
why else would you continue to post on a forum that you have no interest in,please seek some medical help,all the best for a speedy recovery, get well soon ph.
I thought trainspotters where a bit barmy but a guy from work tells me his teenage son is a Eddie Stobart Truck spotter!!
Sounds positively thrilling, compared to the Bus Spotters I saw in Bristol coach station a few years ago!!??
Sounds positively thrilling, compared to the Bus Spotters I saw in Bristol coach station a few years ago!!??
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Simon Chowder
The man has a record of not one single post in here that wasn't designed to wind up spotters. A blatant breach of netiquette and also given the fact that he is one and the same as Kevlarcarl, also banned, I am curious as to why he is immune to pprune rules.
If I were to go into the Cabin Crew forum and post a host of derogatory comments about staff, I would be banned. All Chowder does is come into this part of pprune and be derogatory about the people he knows are in here.
MODS it seems to be one rule for some and a different rule for others.
It takes foresight and planning to find the elusive aircraft you need Simon. Brains and research, literacy to log them, many use spreadsheets and computer programs. Many use complex SLR cameras with impressive results. If you can show me a UK airport with an airport terrace I'd be delighted to demonstrate. Given that there aren't (m)any left shows you know little about what you are talking about, YET AGAIN. The amount of time money and effort I put into finding, logging and photographing aircraft of interest to me is staggering. It's a boys and their toys thing Simon. It's not dying out as I feared a few years back, if anything there's more of us than for many years. I spent a day in Germany this weekend, got caught in sand storm and was thogoughly impressed by a Lufthansa A380. I had a fulfilling and busy weekend. You have NO idea, sniping at the sidelines like a petulant child is all you seem to do. What a waste!
Once again you belittle and mock, that's all you ever do mate. You come across as ignorant and certainly intolerant of the habits of your fellow men who don't fit into your tiny world view.
This is a forum for decent people enjoying a hobby to share information. So Simon, show me one non offensive post you have posted in here please?
If I were to go into the Cabin Crew forum and post a host of derogatory comments about staff, I would be banned. All Chowder does is come into this part of pprune and be derogatory about the people he knows are in here.
MODS it seems to be one rule for some and a different rule for others.
Actually how anyone can compare standing on some airport terrace mindlessly scribbling down aircraft reg numbers as they trundle past with hobbies that require a fair bit of effort and skill such as fishing / painting/modelling is beyond me
Once again you belittle and mock, that's all you ever do mate. You come across as ignorant and certainly intolerant of the habits of your fellow men who don't fit into your tiny world view.
This is a forum for decent people enjoying a hobby to share information. So Simon, show me one non offensive post you have posted in here please?
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SOE.Agree with everything. I don't care what people do as a hobby, it's their business and nobody elses, unless they are on the same wavelengthas others. It would be a most boring world if we were all the same!!!
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I really dont know why certain folk get their knickers in such a twist over simon chowder his comments are clearly tongue in cheek and he must be having a real chuckle at the outrage his comments seem to cause some, anyway onto far more interesting things than mr chowder did anyone see the documenetery last night on the beeb about rolls royce and the new engine for the 787 i really enjoyed it great to see a british company at the cutting edge of technology
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An unbroken record of winding people up just to cause a reaction goes beyond "tongue in cheek". He adds nothing to this forum. Nothing whatsoever except spiteful ignorant remarks. He actually does get to me as wind up merchants like him can make some people's lives an utter misery. I had a few in my younger days that were frankly bullies and it's exactly the same thing IMHO.
It's why we have strict policies on this sort of crap at work. He annoys me greatly.
I did watch the 787 program last night though. I find it hard to get too excited by the 787 as aesthetically it looks like the 757 and 767 got it together and had a plastic child (!) I am quite proud though that the British can still build something world class though. Good on Rolls Royce !
I do hope the 787 enters service before I die of old age though. I want to write down it's number you see....
It's why we have strict policies on this sort of crap at work. He annoys me greatly.
I did watch the 787 program last night though. I find it hard to get too excited by the 787 as aesthetically it looks like the 757 and 767 got it together and had a plastic child (!) I am quite proud though that the British can still build something world class though. Good on Rolls Royce !
I do hope the 787 enters service before I die of old age though. I want to write down it's number you see....
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Oh come on now there is always banter on forums such as this, its hardly bullying and if anyone really allow smart alec comments about plane spotters on a forum to upset them they really should have a word with themselves, there are far more important things to worry about in life, i honestly dont give a hoot what anyone thinks about me being a spotter i enjoy it and thats all that matters, in fact i quite enjoy reading some of chowders rantings there are quite amusing at times
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<<know a ship spotter!!!!!!>>
My wife and I engage in this devious practice too - very close to the Kebab shop in Hythe, which sells the most amazing chicken sandwiches known to man.
An ex-colleague of mine, with whom I worked for nigh on 30 years, collects airline sick bags!
Another ex-colleague collects Norbert Dentressangle numbers and has even been known to France to catch the latest ones. Of course, Eddie spotters like my wife and me treat such peasants with disdain...
PS... Managed to cop a couple of new ones at Blackbushe this lunchtime.
My wife and I engage in this devious practice too - very close to the Kebab shop in Hythe, which sells the most amazing chicken sandwiches known to man.
An ex-colleague of mine, with whom I worked for nigh on 30 years, collects airline sick bags!
Another ex-colleague collects Norbert Dentressangle numbers and has even been known to France to catch the latest ones. Of course, Eddie spotters like my wife and me treat such peasants with disdain...
PS... Managed to cop a couple of new ones at Blackbushe this lunchtime.
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Including all the nice policemen of various nationalities
They never did turn up and we parted on good terms.
E.F.
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there is always banter on forums such as this, its hardly bullying and if anyone really allow smart alec comments about plane spotters on a forum to upset them they really should have a word with themselves, there are far more important things to worry about in life
SOE I sympathise but tbf your reaction is exactly what he's looking for. In the absence of mods (I agree the lack of action is odd IMHO) I suggest you ignore or it's just feeding the problem.
Anyway, I'm with Cherry. Occasionally he's funny. This one's my favourite:
Life's too short to get uptight about a little tinker like SC.
Anyway, I'm with Cherry. Occasionally he's funny. This one's my favourite:
There was a rumour they were going to remame the AVP the "cabbage patch" for some reason
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I suggest you ignore or it's just feeding the problem.
Me, I like to see a frothing lunatic from time to time and the great thing about PPRuNe is that there is no shortage whatsoever.
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Can you honestly imagine it being funny substituting "cabbage patch" spotters for "effeminate and orange" cabin crew?
That's the honest test and he fails. Neither are funny, both are against the rules, only one gets away with it. See if you can guess which.
That's the honest test and he fails. Neither are funny, both are against the rules, only one gets away with it. See if you can guess which.
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To come back to the original question heading up this thread.
This is not a new issue. During WW2 there existed a simple 4 page magazine or newsletter titled "The Aeroplane Spotter" . This referred not to number collecting but the more serious business of aircraft recognition. Post war, it continued to 1948 but the issues from that time show some sort of identity crisis between its original purpose and "spotting" as it is currently understood.
The correspondence columns on the subject are just as vehement ,if possible more civilised in language, than todays. However one letter, from January 1948, is worth quoting from as a direct answer to the thread question.
Todays enthusiasts can only envy him the variety, whether they keep records or not.
This is not a new issue. During WW2 there existed a simple 4 page magazine or newsletter titled "The Aeroplane Spotter" . This referred not to number collecting but the more serious business of aircraft recognition. Post war, it continued to 1948 but the issues from that time show some sort of identity crisis between its original purpose and "spotting" as it is currently understood.
The correspondence columns on the subject are just as vehement ,if possible more civilised in language, than todays. However one letter, from January 1948, is worth quoting from as a direct answer to the thread question.
"Readers of the Aerospane Spotter may be interested to learn that among their number is one who has been a consistent "spotter" for over a quarter of a century, although the term was unknown before about 1938.
On January 4th 1948 I completed 25 years of recording civil aeroplanes. Even during the war years i managed to log a few and so maintain a continuous record. Before 1923 i was a regular visitor to the then London Terminal Aerodrome at Croydon but alas kept on written record. All my "spotting" has been done in the United Kingdom , in spite of which 1,100 air-liners flying under the flags of foreign nations have been logged, apart from several hundreds of foreign light aeroplanes. Altogther I have recorded almost 6,000 civil aeroplanes of which nearly 4,000 were before the outbreak of war,
Looking through the pages of my register , the steady development of aeroplanes during the first 25 years of civil air transport is unfolded and all the types recorded as they actually came into service. The long lines of deHavilland, Handley Page, Fokker and Junkers transports can be traced in chronological order through the years and so revive pleasant memories of happy hours spent on the various civil aerodromes..........
On January 4th 1948 I completed 25 years of recording civil aeroplanes. Even during the war years i managed to log a few and so maintain a continuous record. Before 1923 i was a regular visitor to the then London Terminal Aerodrome at Croydon but alas kept on written record. All my "spotting" has been done in the United Kingdom , in spite of which 1,100 air-liners flying under the flags of foreign nations have been logged, apart from several hundreds of foreign light aeroplanes. Altogther I have recorded almost 6,000 civil aeroplanes of which nearly 4,000 were before the outbreak of war,
Looking through the pages of my register , the steady development of aeroplanes during the first 25 years of civil air transport is unfolded and all the types recorded as they actually came into service. The long lines of deHavilland, Handley Page, Fokker and Junkers transports can be traced in chronological order through the years and so revive pleasant memories of happy hours spent on the various civil aerodromes..........
Todays enthusiasts can only envy him the variety, whether they keep records or not.
Are all my aircraft movements collected in some mutual, shared by all database?
Spotters, in the main, are harmless folk. They are doing something which they get immense pleasure from. I was once one myself, to a lesser degree now but I still look up at the LTN and STN outbounds and tie up the registrations on my radarbox to see if it's one of the new fleet.
Chowder, you are a cock of the first order. Who gave you the right to be Chief of the Intelligence Corps?