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Old 24th May 2010, 20:03
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What I also find pathetic is your clear intolerance of other people. I struggle to find any recent posts that you have made that adds anything worthwhile to a thread.
Hey Simon.........Why not rise to the challenge? Put together some words that are instructive, informative, positive, encouraging, tolerant, pleasent and show a general friendliness to your fellow Forumites and indeed all of humanity.

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Old 24th May 2010, 21:17
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well said skipness and very well put
how many times has this troll and his alter ego kevlarcarl been red carded?
he add's sod all to any thread,and gets off by winding the rest of us up.
small minded sad little boy go play some where else.
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Old 25th May 2010, 10:19
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Why is it unreasonable of me to have an expectation of being able to go to work and use the tools of my trade without having an unknown number of unknown people monitoring me, for no other purpose than having their curiosity satisfied?
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Old 25th May 2010, 10:50
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as I am doing my ppl i am desperate to learn more about RT discipline
At some stage in your PPL you will get a Flight Radio Telephony Operator's Licence (is it still called that since the days when I got mine?). Then you won't be doing anything illegal.
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Old 25th May 2010, 15:46
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Exactly one outsider why should you indeed be monitored by these people, would these characaters relish you snooping on them as they go about their daily work, why do they feel the need to do it and why do they think they have some god given right to break the law by doing it?

As for being sad PH ,well this weekend all being well i will be gliding at long mynd, you i presume will huddled on some airport terrace with your flask of tea collecting reg numbers and snooping in on other people having all the fun, now how sad is that?

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Old 25th May 2010, 15:58
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Blimey, will my AirNav radar box be considered a tool of perversion as well?
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Old 25th May 2010, 16:43
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SC are you really 45?

Anyway - I for one actually enjoy your posts. The entertainment value is excellent. Keep going, why on earth anyone would rise to your evident brand of immature trolling is beyond me.

Sorry, nearly forgot...
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Old 25th May 2010, 16:59
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simonchowder does sound rather like a failed spotter..

Did he scald someone with his thermos of coffee on a viewing balcony somewhere?

Maybe he poked someone's eye out with his airband radio antenna.

Or quite likely he ticked all the reg entries in his World Airline Fleet handbook without actually spotting the aircraft concerned!

Legal or not - listening to airband is a harmless pursuit and (with a copy of CAP413 handy) helps PPL students gain an excellent understanding of the language and proceedures before they take their RT exam. It certainly made me feel alot more confident about talking to ATC when I was training.

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Old 25th May 2010, 17:51
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Ahh Simon, same old, same old.
"Spotters bah, I'm better than them, blah blah." You come across as someone with a spiteful little grudge.

snooping in on other people having all the fun
What on Earth do you do in the aviation industry Simon? You're far from professional so you're never a CPL. Do you perhaps wash the windows? Is that "on the inside" enough?

Anyway good to know your mummy is letting you out this weekend. A glider eh? Mmm that's impressive. Odd that you've not once posted on the subject of gliding.

Are you in fact Walter Mitty as well as kevlarcarl? We should be told...
*that's enough of that ED*

Go on, tell us why you hate us so. So much effort to cause so much annoyance.

Did you mistake a 707 for a DC8 and never live it down?
Did you think port was next to sherry?

We should be told.

Here's some advice mate. If you don't like something, stay away from it. If you poke it with a stick often enough, you'll get your hand bitten off. Stay out of Spectators Corner if you don't like spotters. It's that simple, stop being a moron and leave people alone.
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Old 25th May 2010, 18:21
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I don't spot, I used to fly, I don't play golf but I do, and enjoy, ballroom dancing, which a lot of people probably don't like. However, I like it, it is one of my hobbies, and I think it is very ignorant of people to run down what other people enjoy.
I don't see what spotting has to attract people to it, but at least the spotters have a hobby, which makes them much more interesting than people who don't have one for a start. What other people do in there spare time is surely sacrosanct, and should not be criticized simply because it's not what you would do!!. Each to his own. [I also adore pretty women, and that's harmless too]
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Old 25th May 2010, 19:34
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decent radio to listen to atc?

seems the original Question here got Hijacked one thing to remember
when Buying a radio .

1 Does it cover what i want to listen to ,if you only need VHF
then get one for that . many Radios with loads on are often
poor on Rejection of unwanted noise.

2 Battery Life (get a spare set of NICADS and a SOLAR Charger

3 get a decent pair of phones for it so only you can hear it

I First listened to Aircraft some 50 years ago at School when a Science
Master introduced the class to SHANNON AIR RADIO And what it all
meant so fidling with a short wave Radio at home found SHANWICK.
Some of early VHF FM Radios Suffered with Aircraft Breakthough so
at times you could hear 127.7 the then MID route over where we
lived . bought my first Airband Set near EGLL and my First scanner
from TANDY when like very many those days we were buying parts
for our CB Radios .Never Ever been warned by Police for using a radio
and very often even today thay will come and stand by you and
others with Radios in full view all very interested .
What i want to know is are all that that keep on about use of
and Law 100percent Without such Equipment themselves and
RADAR BOXES I Wonder ?

TONY
Farnborough
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Old 26th May 2010, 09:09
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Shannon Radio

My history goes back as a junior with KLM Air Traffic at Croydon where their Dakotas shared the apron with Junkers 52's of SABENA and Air France. I recall that at home late at night I too would listen in to the transatlantic Air traffic radio chatter in the 40's and 50's on my ordinary Derwent valve radio - pulling in such far away stations as Idlewild Gander Rio Rome etc. - with crystal clear reception of ground and a/c xmissions.

Later when working for SAS airlines I was offered their R1132 VHF receiver (ex RAF) (delivered in its own huge fitted wooden crate with seperate power pack and metal stand). This enabled me to listen in to a/c lining up at Heathrow - following their flights onto Shannon and over the Atlantic - Switching between the two radios. Great Days - The golden days of Flying !

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Old 27th May 2010, 08:53
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There was a time when, if you wanted to use an airband receiver on the Spectators' Terrace at Glasgow (it had one once!), you needed to have it tested by ATC and be issued with a certificate to say that it did not interfere with operations at the airport. Good excuse for a visit to the Tower.
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Old 27th May 2010, 09:08
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Queens Building ATC feed?

I seem to remember in the old Queens Building spectators area at Heathrow, they had a PA feed giving aircraft movements and details, was it Tower or Ground relay, or maybe just an announcer? Can't quite recall.... many years ago.
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Old 27th May 2010, 10:03
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It was a commentator, usually Stan Little or Flo Kingdon plus A N Other I believe. There was no relay of R/T.
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Old 27th May 2010, 10:23
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Ah! Thanx HD...
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Old 28th May 2010, 08:09
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Legal Listening

Whether or not listening to air traffic radio is legal I would place in the same file as listening to Police radio - whereby for every Yes - there
will also be a 'No' !

Ham Radio (Amateur Radio) licence holders will often quote the 1948
Wireless Telegraphy Act and state that the practice 'Is Illegal' !
However if seeking an answer from your local police station (as I once did)
will leave you further confused as they dont seem to know for sure either.

I have heard it summed up that 'Provided one does not act upon or use
any information gained by listening in' then it is not illegal.
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Old 28th May 2010, 10:00
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So its no just pilots/ ATC you lot snoop on, its police transmissions as well, why the hell would you want to sit there listning to police radio traffic ?
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Old 28th May 2010, 11:38
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why the hell would you want to sit there listning to police radio traffic ?
To hear when they are coming to arrest you for listening to ATC.
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Old 28th May 2010, 11:41
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Ham Radio (Amateur Radio) licence holders will often quote the 1948
Wireless Telegraphy Act

Not this one!

It has not been possible to monitor Police transmissions for many years. Better you get up to date than pointless pontificating.
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