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Old 9th May 2010, 21:44
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Is it "After the landing ? line up and wait"
In the UK for a full-length departure the standard RT is:
"(Callsign) after the landing (aircraft type) line up runway (designator)".

I would normally put the "and wait" in there as two more syllables isn't a lot for the extra peace of mind it gives. If it's for a departure from anywhere other than the full length then the holding point designator must be in the line up clearance, so "(Callsign) after the landing (aircraft type) via (holding point) line up runway (designator)". (Controllers may use the holding point designator in any line up clearance as appropriate). I can get you CAP 493 references if you need them.

As an aside, I believe that in ICAO land the phrase would be "Behind the landing (aircraft type), line up behind". However this is a sketchy memory from a conversation I had ages ago, and there are people on here much better qualified to talk about ICAO than I am.
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Many years ago at a French airport - at night - I was asked if I was visual with the 757 on finals. I told the controller I was visible with a spread of lights, was that good enough?

I can spot most commercial airliners with little difficulty, but have little idea about biz jet recognition; bit of a nuisance in GVA!
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