22 Degree Halo

Come join me on the naughty steps.

Avman

Maybe you deserved it?

22 Degree Halo

Check back my posts - I fail to see how

HeathrowAirport

Same here - I am not a spotter though - I am doing my NPPL/EASA LAPL.

Someone's trigger happy tonight.

Also furthermore to the point'

For someone to be called a spotter.

I don't do any of that - I am a Student on a C172.

PPRuNe Pop

I told you just a few days ago that non-professionals were not wanted on the R&N forum, and particularly on the ash thread. But some of you thought you would have a go and then get deleted from it. What is it? Don't you like being told how it is or what?

I too have been deleting posts on the ash thread, some that 'spotters' have been making. THAT WILL CONTINUE SO DON'T DO IT!

Your input is doubtless thought by you to be of value but it isn't.



PPP

Double Zero

PPP,

Please don't misunderstand me, I'm an ex-pro military aircraft & kit - still definitely a civvie non pilot myself - photographer ( and that means dealing with all sorts of kit, not just cameras as I'm sure you know ).

I visit this 'spotter's corner' to keep up with the latest cameras, as A, I'm not flying at the moment,

B, Only a fool says he can't learn !

There have been a few tongue in cheek comments about the Ash Problem, also some serious flight test questions, both categories from self.

Someone somewhere is indeed being a bit hair-triggered on the 'ban' button.

As this Ash is something we would never have believed for a second if we read it in a book, it's hardly surprising people might discuss it on a Rumour Network site ?!

Anyone responsible will keep anything naughty to publish out of it, or of course that's your time to step in, among any time you see fit; I run a smaller website, and thoroughly enjoyed banning a rude idiot - as for security etc, I'd be happy to send my C.V. again, & do recall mailing you recently about something.

Regards,

DZ

HamishMcBush

I too have been banned from a certain thread becasue "spotters were warned".
Well, I never received a warning.
All I ever wanted to be when I was young was an airline pilot, but I was advised not to become one at my careers stage at secondary school. Maybe if the way the moderators behave is representative of the way pilots behave, it's just as well.
But it saddens me; am I supposed to be telepathetic?
I feel my entire life has been a waste of time, and heavy-handed actions without due warning by others doesn't help matters

Pugilistic Animus

so what information do you have about ash clouds?

What are the resources are used officially by pilots in order to determine volcanic hazards?

Should you use autothrottle? autopilot?

What are some signs of flight through volcanic ash?

Do you have your job or your butt right on the line wrt to the ash cloud?

Lester

Double Zero

Hamish,

If you really want to fly for a 'job' you'll soon learn to watch out for wind-up merchants -and in the services, as the no. of seats decline, it will only get worse.

So if that is your chosen profession, DO IT but it has to be in modern parlance 24/7.

Have fun, maybe I'll photograph you and your a/c one day if we're both lucky enough to be there.

DZ

kevlarcarl

Might be prudent to wind yer necks in , count yourselfs very lucky a forum for aviation pros even allows you lot house room and abide by the rules, if you dont you might find yourselves back on the wrong side of the peri -track fence so to speak

holyflyer

The Mods have had an unenviable task these last few days. Simply managing the "Ash Thread" and ensuring it was being moderated at all times was probably difficult in itself.

We all need to remember, whether spotter, PPL or 30,000 hr 747 skipper, that we are guests in a forum that has its rules and policies.

Some of us also need to update our profiles to ensure that when we do post the mods know our background.

Having contributed a few times I began to watch the thread from a purely academic point of view. (I have a Philosophy lecture coming up: Persuasion - Argument, Debate, Discussion.) It was interesting to note the different editorial policies. Some very good, technically well thought out posts were deleted,I guess because they were not professional pilots; yet other 'twitter' style posts remained. I hope to include examples in the lecture.

The headline phrase "Rumours & News Reporting Points that may affect our jobs or lives as professional pilots. Also, items that may be of interest to professional pilots" certainly needs updating. Sentence one implies the Sub-Forum is for Professional Pilots, but then sentence two partially contradicts that and gives a get out caveat. It needs strengthening.

Professionally, I do hope the mods get together at some point in the future for a de-brief, reflection and review perhaps with someone from beyond Pprune. They do a difficult, largely unsung job. I for one appreciate it.

kevlarcarl

Thats the whole problem, it doesnt have only aviation pros posting it has no end of half baked "spotters" who have no valid contribution to make who however seem to think that because they spend hours flying their flight sims or gazing thro their binos that qualifies them to make informed postings on the pros forums ,sadly it doesnt , leave that to the pilots/ATC/engineers/ops etc

Hirem J Trashcan

Who can define "valid contribution" though? What's of value to one person may be considered absolute trash to one of the moderators

Sprogget

I didn't get banned. Then again, I posted something relevant tee hee!

JimmyTAP

You seem to forget that aviation "professionals" come in various shapes and varieties.
What should be deleted are irrelevant posts, especially in a large thread. There were even some about the Challenger disaster, the link to the volcanic ash business was tenuous at best.
To lump "spotters" in one group is wrong. I look through binoculars at aeroplanes, play on flight sim and have had nearly 24 years in the aviation business. Does that make me a "spotter" or a "professional"?

ExRAFRadar

Hats off to you kevlar you have them biting.

I had a thread locked and didnt think to much about it - with hindsight it was the wrong place and 'an ash thread too far'

But it did preempt the goverment 'Armarda sent to Spain' announcement.

Pity some sort of PPrune wasnt around when the roles were reversed and Spain sent an armada our way.

Matter of fact I can feel a JetBlast thread coming on

west lakes

Those that claim thay weren't warned, you must then have missed this post
(you did take the trouble to check all the thread before posting didn't you?)


http://www.pprune.org/5638406-post465.html

Sir Herbert Gussett

And from some of your other posts you seem like a spotter (and student) to me!

Lessons towards an NPPL doesn't give you enough credit to comment on a PROFESSIONAL'S matter!!

kevlarcarl

I hope RAFradar your not suggesting for a moment i would attempt to wind up the knapsack and thermos fraternity, i was merely pointing out that their kindly tolerated here and not to abuse the kindness shown to them by the grown ups by constantly posting spotter drivel on their forums

Pugilistic Animus

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