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I'm going to ask this question on this thread because although there are other similar ones around the site, this seems the most appropriate place to ask.
There have been plenty of diverted aircraft in the UK over the last few days. Is this not a complete nightmare for the operations department? What are you supposed to do when (say) Gatwick-based aircraft end up in (say) East Midlands overnight and that same aircraft is needed the following day for early departures? Surely it is a crewing nightmare too because the flight/cabin crew are now (a) in the wrong place (b) have no way of getting back to base and therefore home for the night; (c) cannot therefore operate the rest of their schedule; (d) there is no one to fly the aircraft back to where it needs to be because duty hours have expired. Multiply by however many flights/aircraft/crews a large airline has on a daily basis and the knock-on effect etc. Have I missed something and it is a lot easier than this?
There have been plenty of diverted aircraft in the UK over the last few days. Is this not a complete nightmare for the operations department? What are you supposed to do when (say) Gatwick-based aircraft end up in (say) East Midlands overnight and that same aircraft is needed the following day for early departures? Surely it is a crewing nightmare too because the flight/cabin crew are now (a) in the wrong place (b) have no way of getting back to base and therefore home for the night; (c) cannot therefore operate the rest of their schedule; (d) there is no one to fly the aircraft back to where it needs to be because duty hours have expired. Multiply by however many flights/aircraft/crews a large airline has on a daily basis and the knock-on effect etc. Have I missed something and it is a lot easier than this?
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Now you know why the airlines are cancelling so many flights at the moment.
I think it would be more cost-effective if you just parked your a/c up for the time being and cancelled your flights.
The cost of operating must be more than parking at the moment.
I think it would be more cost-effective if you just parked your a/c up for the time being and cancelled your flights.
The cost of operating must be more than parking at the moment.
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Last time I positioned an aircraft (late night) from gatters to the big smoke, we were airborne for 9 mins and achieved no more than 3000'! Sid was altered to, when you turn, head north and maintain 3000', no speed! Fun!
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Okay folks, based on my experience, I'm fairly sure that Monarch as a whole will manage to sort out the various wx problems & continue to operate their flights as much as possible. Granted a lot of extra hassle & work for many sections of the Company I'm sure, but the end result will be, yellow & black (sorry purple?) aircraft continuing to get into the air.
Many moons ago when flying for HM the Q, while taxying at Copenhagen during the winter in the snow, we came nose to nose with a SAS DC8. We were right & he was wrong, good time to show off the MK1 Andover's three point turning ability. The Danes were quite impressed.
My local wx report, w/v 340/ 6 CAVOK OAT + 28
Take care folks & all the best for 2010
Many moons ago when flying for HM the Q, while taxying at Copenhagen during the winter in the snow, we came nose to nose with a SAS DC8. We were right & he was wrong, good time to show off the MK1 Andover's three point turning ability. The Danes were quite impressed.
My local wx report, w/v 340/ 6 CAVOK OAT + 28
Take care folks & all the best for 2010
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It looked familiar ...
What was that, climbing out over Windsor Great Park at 14:19, into the low sun, as Mrs G. and I took our Sunday afternoon stroll amongst the bikers, prams, dogs, and horse poo? It certainly looked like a Monarch A321, but it went and hid behind a patch of cloud right overhead. Seemed to be on a Midhurst departure off the 27s.
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Speaking of the short sectors, I was on duty at Cardiff about 5 years ago when one of our company 767's diverted in as it was trying to get into St Athan for maintenance (about 4 miles away). St Athan was misted up with only military nav aids for back up.
The crew got off, went into the airport, had some breakfast and waited for the mist to lift. They then took off VFR from 12 at Cardiff and made their way around the corner.
A 767-300, no flight plan, just a quick 'book out' call to atc. Priceless!!
The crew got off, went into the airport, had some breakfast and waited for the mist to lift. They then took off VFR from 12 at Cardiff and made their way around the corner.
A 767-300, no flight plan, just a quick 'book out' call to atc. Priceless!!
