Using a transeiver on a commercial jet (personal use)

[thugzlife]

Using a Scanner on a commercial jet (personal use)

Hi all,

I'mTaking a break from the cockpit over christmas holidays & jetting of to florida for a few weeks.

Thought it may be a good idea when taking off and landing to use the camcorder and hook it up to my transceiver, just so people can hear whats going on with ATC aswell as viewing it.

Just a few questions, i know all about the legal implications of listening in to ATC, but im wondering if there would be any problems going through customs @ Manchester & then Sanford?

At the moment it is purely a thought - but i do have the hardware to make it happen.

Any thoughts welcome....

Thanks.

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

First question - what authority do you have to carry a transceiver when off duty?

[thugzlife]

HD - good spot, i actually meant scanner, i have no intention of using a transceiver at all - that would be silly.

[ab33t]

Be very aware things are very touchy at the moment on the security front .

[simonchowder]

"Im taking a break from the cockpit and jetting of to florida"..... lmao, course you are, keep taking the pills my friend

[thugzlife]

Simon, nice to meet you too.

I spend a lot of time flying Cessna's for fun, nothing more, nothing less.... and if you havent got a helpul response then why bother at all.

[smudgethecat]

Jetting off to Florida eh?, sounds like something Simon Templar would have said , how very quaint, however i doubt Mr Templar would have used Sanford some how

[Bealzebub]

It isn't a good idea. Don't!

[Dual ground]

"Thought it may be a good idea when taking off and landing to use the camcorder and hook it up to my transceiver, just so people can hear whats going on with ATC aswell as viewing it."

In clear violation of the part of the safety brief that will say "All electronic equipment must be switched off during take-off and landing"?

Yeah, sounds like a really good idea.....

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

<<HD - good spot, i actually meant scanner, i have no intention of using a transceiver at all - that would be silly.

With respect, if you don't know the difference between a scanner and a transceiver I don't think you ought to try what you are proposing. In any event, a scanning receiver emits low level radio signals which could cause problems with in-flight avionics and I agree with Dual ground.

[thugzlife]

Thanks HD, thats the kind of response im looking for.

Although i do know the difference just had a mad moment while typing.

@ Dual ground...... thats exactly what it was - an idea - but your constructive advice was mind blowing.

[Dual ground]

You're more than welcome

[heebeegb]

Think you're better off just getting back to your flight sim mate.

[Groundloop]

As well as ALL electronic equipment should be turned off during take-off and landing there is also:-

just so people can hear whats going on with ATC aswell as viewing it.

It is actually illegal to pass on information you have heard to another person (let alone it also being technically illegal to have a scanner in the first place!)

[simonchowder]

As heegeegb said earlier stick with your sim mate, far less potential for getting yourself in lumber

[Skipness One Echo]

Madness. In a rebellious phase about ten eyars ago, I tried it with my air band scanner, a good one, in my pocket and an ear piece in. I put it off when taxi-ing out as the reception was very,very, poor. I tried it for a few seconds in the climb and the reception was still poor with loud background noise.

Now I know that you're not supposed to have electronic gadgets on during certain phases as they are suspected to cause interference to "aircraft systems" so I wouldn't repeat it. ( are the RC135 and the Nimrod so well shielded I wonder. A lot of jiggery pokery in those two. ) Given that the reception is poor and you're also going to be filming ( naughty ), it's not worth the candle. I was once smacked down by a Ryanair hostie for using a Nikon on taxi out. Dangerous thing the SLR. I haven't been caught since and I have no doubt that I will be reponsible for killing everyone blah blah blah one day.

Can we calm down on the man having an air band scanner please? Has no one ever been to an air show? They are VERY common, openly sold and thus far, the law that you are all getting a little pious about has not been used in this regard. The statute book is full of laws that are seldom if ever used, and I am assuming that you chaps in the Tower have nothing to hide.

Just a few questions, i know all about the legal implications of listening in to ATC, but im wondering if there would be any problems going through customs @ Manchester & then Sanford?

None encountered in 200+ flights since I was ten.

[Malaysian28]

I know this is not the same principle.

YouTube - ATC included British Airways A320 landing at Heathrow inbound from Newcastle

[SeenItAll]

Why don't you just fly United Airlines. One the channels of their IFE system is tuned to the cockpit's ATC frequency. You can then hear all the relevant ATC comms without using your own kit.

[One Outsider]

So what we have here, and what some people seem to think is jolly well ok, is someone who, by own admission, knows the rules quite well and still, by own admission, thought it may be a good idea to deliberately ignore those rules.

At the same time there are encouragements to break the law if one can be reasonably certain one can get away with it.

[Malaysian28]

My only recommendation is dont do it!
Nothing Negative & Nothing Positive!