Lufthansa diverts to Frankfurt
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Lufthansa diverts to Frankfurt
Bit of a non-event again, but here goes:
German magazine DER SPIEGEL reports the following:
Technische Probleme: Lufthansa-Maschine kehrt auf halbem Weg um - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Panorama
(My rough translation)
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Engine oil loss: A Lufthansa jet on its way to New York turned around over Greenland due to technical problems and returned to Frankfurt. It landed ther without further problems.
The pilot decided to return to Frankfurt am Main due to oil loss on one of the four engines. An NBC reporter who was on board of the aircraft announced on Tw it ter that the voice of the pilot sounded "stressed" when he announced the decision to return.
At that time the aircraft was already over Greenland and had already covered half the distance to New York. There wer 334 persons on board of the Boeing 747.
At around 17 pm the aircraft landed without any problems. The passengers were able to continue their journey late Saturday afternoon.
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Ölverlust an einem Triebwerk: Wegen technischer Probleme ist ein Jet der Lufthansa auf dem Weg nach New York über Grönland umgekehrt und nach Frankfurt am Main zurückgeflogen. Dort landete die Maschine ohne Schwierigkeiten.
Frankfurt/Main - Der Pilot entschied sich nach Angaben der Fluggesellschaft zur Umkehr nach Frankfurt am Main, weil eines der vier Triebwerke Öl verlor. Eine Reporterin des US-Fernsehsenders NBC, die an Bord der Maschine war, gab per Tw it ter bekannt, dass die Stimme des Piloten "angespannt" gewesen sei, als dieser seinen Entschluss zur Umkehr mitteilte.
Zu diesem Zeitpunkt befand sich das Flugzeug bereits über Grönland und hatte etwa die halbe Strecke auf dem Weg nach New York zurückgelegt. An Bord der Boeing 747 der Lufthansa waren insgesamt 334 Menschen.
Das Flugzeug landete gegen 17 Uhr ohne Schwierigkeiten auf dem Frankfurter Flughafen. Die Passagiere konnten ihre Reise am späten Samstagabend fortsetzen.
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Feel free to speculate in best pprune style!
German magazine DER SPIEGEL reports the following:
Technische Probleme: Lufthansa-Maschine kehrt auf halbem Weg um - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Panorama
(My rough translation)
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Engine oil loss: A Lufthansa jet on its way to New York turned around over Greenland due to technical problems and returned to Frankfurt. It landed ther without further problems.
The pilot decided to return to Frankfurt am Main due to oil loss on one of the four engines. An NBC reporter who was on board of the aircraft announced on Tw it ter that the voice of the pilot sounded "stressed" when he announced the decision to return.
At that time the aircraft was already over Greenland and had already covered half the distance to New York. There wer 334 persons on board of the Boeing 747.
At around 17 pm the aircraft landed without any problems. The passengers were able to continue their journey late Saturday afternoon.
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Ölverlust an einem Triebwerk: Wegen technischer Probleme ist ein Jet der Lufthansa auf dem Weg nach New York über Grönland umgekehrt und nach Frankfurt am Main zurückgeflogen. Dort landete die Maschine ohne Schwierigkeiten.
Frankfurt/Main - Der Pilot entschied sich nach Angaben der Fluggesellschaft zur Umkehr nach Frankfurt am Main, weil eines der vier Triebwerke Öl verlor. Eine Reporterin des US-Fernsehsenders NBC, die an Bord der Maschine war, gab per Tw it ter bekannt, dass die Stimme des Piloten "angespannt" gewesen sei, als dieser seinen Entschluss zur Umkehr mitteilte.
Zu diesem Zeitpunkt befand sich das Flugzeug bereits über Grönland und hatte etwa die halbe Strecke auf dem Weg nach New York zurückgelegt. An Bord der Boeing 747 der Lufthansa waren insgesamt 334 Menschen.
Das Flugzeug landete gegen 17 Uhr ohne Schwierigkeiten auf dem Frankfurter Flughafen. Die Passagiere konnten ihre Reise am späten Samstagabend fortsetzen.
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Feel free to speculate in best pprune style!
Total non event. Not worth posting. Pilot "stressed" my @r$e! More like pi$$ed off just as much as the pax. I did an 5 hour oceanic AMS-AMS roundtrip a couple of years ago due to a tech problem. These things happen. And they happen several times a day around the world.
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At that time the aircraft was already over Greenland and had already covered half the distance to New York. There wer 334 persons on board of the Boeing 747.
Feel free to speculate in best PPRuNe style!
Wouldn't it have made sense then to continue to NYC if it was at or beyond halfway?
Surely only BA allowed to make that type of decision!
Jack
Wouldn't it have made sense then to continue to NYC if it was at or beyond halfway?
Surely only BA allowed to make that type of decision!
Jack
The BA 3 engine flight was perfectly safe. What then happened was that the political parts of the FAA - the ones charged with "Promoting US airlines" got hold of it and made a political thing of it.
The real safety folk in the FAA knew that those arguments were a crock of sh*t, but once the publicity had started, they couldn't pull it back.
So all the European airlines are now very wary of the FAA, and how it might go about "publicising" what they do.
The real safety folk in the FAA knew that those arguments were a crock of sh*t, but once the publicity had started, they couldn't pull it back.
So all the European airlines are now very wary of the FAA, and how it might go about "publicising" what they do.
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An NBC reporter who was on board of the aircraft announced on Twitter that the voice of the pilot sounded "stressed" when he announced the decision to return
No investigative analysis.
No insight.
Just spontaneous extemporaneous bull****, uttered.
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In my years of flying, I've experienced several depressurisations (the first SAA Airbuses were notorious for it), a few diversions due to WX or operational reasons, a flame-out on a 707, a couple of missed approaches, an aborted take off, a turnback, and possibly other things I can't immediately recall.
I have never heard a captain or F/O sound 'stressed' (whatever that means). I am sure they receive more than adequate training on how to handle these situations without imparting stress or panic to CC or pax.
I have never heard a captain or F/O sound 'stressed' (whatever that means). I am sure they receive more than adequate training on how to handle these situations without imparting stress or panic to CC or pax.
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Of course he wasn't 'stressed'. Don't rise to it, it's just a journalist making a story out of nothing (gosh, never seen that happen before).
As said above, he probably just sounded (understandably) irritated. And a little irritation is something pilots don't always hide when making a PA!
As said above, he probably just sounded (understandably) irritated. And a little irritation is something pilots don't always hide when making a PA!
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Diversion actually hapened over Iceland, not Greenland, so RTB was an easy call. If there was any irritation, it was that he had to inform the pax that they were not going to their destination. That all of the crew work done so far that morning was for nought.
Many years ago, I used to commute business class FRA to SFO and back on Lufthansa, had my choice of mid-europe cities and carriers. Lufthansa the best, tried them all.
9 hours or so into the 747 flight, I was lightly asleep with my pillow against the closed window. Felt, more than anything, something very slowly spool down. Looked around, nobody deemed to have noticed anything. Opened window shade, saw inboard spinner idling, outboard spinning normally. Hmmmm. F/A, saw me open window into mostly darkened cabin, and stopped by to see if I'd like anything to eat. I had slept thru meal services so far.
I asked her if there was anything known about the #3 engine idling. She looked quizzical, but very composed, said she'd inquire. She went up the stairs, and a few moments returned with a smug smile and said "The Captain sends his compliments for noticing. He did, in fact idle the #3 for a technical fault, but not to worry, he has advanced the thrust on the remaining three engines and ve vill arrive on schedule."
Many years ago, I used to commute business class FRA to SFO and back on Lufthansa, had my choice of mid-europe cities and carriers. Lufthansa the best, tried them all.
9 hours or so into the 747 flight, I was lightly asleep with my pillow against the closed window. Felt, more than anything, something very slowly spool down. Looked around, nobody deemed to have noticed anything. Opened window shade, saw inboard spinner idling, outboard spinning normally. Hmmmm. F/A, saw me open window into mostly darkened cabin, and stopped by to see if I'd like anything to eat. I had slept thru meal services so far.
I asked her if there was anything known about the #3 engine idling. She looked quizzical, but very composed, said she'd inquire. She went up the stairs, and a few moments returned with a smug smile and said "The Captain sends his compliments for noticing. He did, in fact idle the #3 for a technical fault, but not to worry, he has advanced the thrust on the remaining three engines and ve vill arrive on schedule."
