marshallers

[Sprogget]

I get to post his up twice in a week! I love hitting up the new posts button.

[Goldilocks95]

you know what, im not a rampy and im actually interested in what the answer to the question because I work in the terminal so I don't know. So does anyone have an answer or are you all too busy moaning about peoples punctuation and grammer?

I don't mean to be rude so I apoligize if i sound it but I just would like the answer to the question asked!

Thank you.

[smudgethecat]

i would thought it would be fairly obvious even to brs, if a aircraft requires marshalling then that has to be done by someone trained and deemed competent to carry out that task ,in exactly the same way as if for example the a/c requires towing that has to be done by a trained/approved tug driver.
Im sure there wil be a CAP on the matter somewhere

[paddingtonbear319]

In answer to the original question , no it doesn't irritate us but the gnd handlers are generally not qualified (elf and safety wise) to guide us on so its a braver man than me that would follow his guidance.

Normally we use the electronic guidance, which can only be turned on by a dispatcher if the stnd is clear. If this is u/s or for someother reason then atc will send out a marshaller with his ping pong bats.

However it does irritate me when I arrive on stand and its deserted so I can't park...

Hope that helps

PB

[42psi]

Smudge is indeed correct.

I'm sure there are many helpfull folk awaiting an aircraft arrival onto stand who might be tempted to assist .... and do, as I've seen it happen.

If it's simply a case of stopping on the correct mark they may well quite easily manage to achieve that.

But they do possibly put themselves and others at some risk in the event something goes wrong.

I've seen a very near (inches) wingtip to catering truck incident as the Capt. accepted a "wings clear" signal given by the truck driver (who had seen these given before and copied).

Unfortunately the truck driver had no idea of an MD80 wingspan (he was signalling as the a/c started it's turn onto stand from the taxiway) ..... until the point he started to run ..... by which time the cockpit focus was now on the papa board and the wing tip was obscured by the airbridge.


If anyone is tempted to assist I'd suggest the best signal to use is the "stop" one. (Edited to add that by that I mean stop it where it is and await a marshaller ...)


While tempting to be apparently helpfull the consequences of getting it wrong might well ruin your day.


The a/c might be struggling to find the line/stop mark as the stand guidence was deliberately switched off ..... that is often done because something is not right ..... airbridge not in usual position due maintenence/breakdown or a myriad of other reasons. Many of which mean there is some danger of a/c damage and may require stopping short of the normal mark for safety.


It would be very sad to see someone trying to help being pilloried when they help the a/c onto the right mark only to look up afterwards and see the engine stuck in the airbridge.

[simonchowder]

Thankfully for the motoring public any high speed driver training in the "fast lane" brs does is im sure only taking place inside his head

[leewan]

Marshalling is a actually a simple task but a very important job. An improperly marshalled a/c can hit onto anything on the ramp causing damage.
For me, marshalling handsignals are the simple part.
Identifying the correct a/c type and stopping it on its respective line is the most important thing. Some airlines will just simply change their a/c type without notice and if you do not notice it and marshall it onto the wrong line, good luck to you then.