BAW25, departed and left some...
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I heard something happened after BAW25 departed today off 27L and aircraft were departing from N3 instead of N2W etc..
What exactly happened? If they dumped something surely they returned?
What exactly happened? If they dumped something surely they returned?
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I think you should rein your neck in a little. You have identified a known service which means you have fingered a particular crew with what is no more than spotter's imaginings or utter nonsense. You should not identify a particular flight- why not make your question general rather than specific flight related?
I would not be at all happy if you came on here identifying one of my flights. It would not be hard to trace you. I suggest you use this as a learning experience to apply common sense and discretion to your outgoings.
I would not be at all happy if you came on here identifying one of my flights. It would not be hard to trace you. I suggest you use this as a learning experience to apply common sense and discretion to your outgoings.
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Huh - I never went to Heathrow, I was just told by someone that there was something with BAW25 that is BA0025. And that something happened after it departed, Im not pointing fingers at anyone.
"You have identified a known service which means you have fingered a particular crew with what is no more than spotter's imaginings or utter nonsense."
"It would not be hard to trace you."
Trace me for what, Its not illegal to ask a question that what happened after a BA 747 departed 27L now isit? Trace me if you like and take me to Court over this question, the bloody judge will laugth himself to sleep.
I DO NOT SPOT, Its boring. I just have an Intrest in aviation, I dont have a book and go writing every registration that ever entered UK airspace into a book, I just like planes, I just wanted to know what happened becuase I dont know what on earth happened becuase I was busy doing more Lifestyle things.
"You have identified a known service which means you have fingered a particular crew with what is no more than spotter's imaginings or utter nonsense."
"It would not be hard to trace you."
Trace me for what, Its not illegal to ask a question that what happened after a BA 747 departed 27L now isit? Trace me if you like and take me to Court over this question, the bloody judge will laugth himself to sleep.
I DO NOT SPOT, Its boring. I just have an Intrest in aviation, I dont have a book and go writing every registration that ever entered UK airspace into a book, I just like planes, I just wanted to know what happened becuase I dont know what on earth happened becuase I was busy doing more Lifestyle things.
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I think what Rainboe is stating is the fact that you have not only identified the airport and airline but the aircraft itself (from the flight number) and thus the crew operating the flight can be easily identified (I believe he was not saying about identifying you but the crew of the flight in question).
There are many people on here from different walks of life, from cabin crew through to senior managers - if for example a senior manager was reading this and nothing had been reported to him then based upon your assertions a flight crew may be requested for tea (and no biscuits) with the senior management to ascertain the foundations of your rumour. Which if was just a rumour and unfounded could lead to an uncomfortable time for no particular reason.
I dont think Rainboe et al mind divulging information should there be fact behind any of it - thus asking about an incident with a flight at heathrow without the specifics of what you heard will typically be answered by those who know the true score as they will be familiar with the incident and wont need you to tell them the flight in question. Saying you heard XXX happened to YYY is very speculative and alot of the time on the grapevine may be incorrect.
If it is also an incident of any note you may wish to check The Aviation Herald as typically a factual report will be published there.
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I think what Rainboe is stating is the fact that you have not only identified the airport and airline but the aircraft itself (from the flight number) and thus the crew operating the flight can be easily identified (I believe he was not saying about identifying you but the crew of the flight in question).
There are many people on here from different walks of life, from cabin crew through to senior managers - if for example a senior manager was reading this and nothing had been reported to him then based upon your assertions a flight crew may be requested for tea (and no biscuits) with the senior management to ascertain the foundations of your rumour. Which if was just a rumour and unfounded could lead to an uncomfortable time for no particular reason.
I dont think Rainboe et al mind divulging information should there be fact behind any of it - thus asking about an incident with a flight at heathrow without the specifics of what you heard will typically be answered by those who know the true score as they will be familiar with the incident and wont need you to tell them the flight in question. Saying you heard XXX happened to YYY is very speculative and alot of the time on the grapevine may be incorrect.
If it is also an incident of any note you may wish to check The Aviation Herald as typically a factual report will be published there.
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I DO NOT SPOT, Its boring. I just have an Intrest in aviation
Boring is looking down on what other people enjoy, just *THINK* before you post please. There are a multiplicity of reasons why a link may have to be closed and aircraft may have to depart from further up a departure runway, bits falling off the previous departing being one of the *LEAST* likely.
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What an unnecessary and pointless, aggressive posting which is having a go at a 16 year old kid, on a plane spotters forum.
If the subsequent aircraft were departing from a different intersection, then i suspect ATC were also aware!
Whats this all about!
This is a very hypercritical posting, can I suggest you learn from this. 16 year old plane spotters will post this sort of thing all the time, if you don't like it - don't come to the plane spotters forum!
What an unnecessary and pointless, aggressive posting which is having a go at a 16 year old kid, on a plane spotters forum.
you have fingered a particular crew
It would not be hard to trace you.
I suggest you use this as a learning experience to apply common sense and discretion to your outgoings.
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Heathrow Airport. With respect, Robbie, some of your posts on this forum for professional people are, shall we say, immature. Think before you write - is an aviation professional really going to be interested in this? It's outrageous that you should take Rainboe to task - he is a respected professional pilot.
Aircraft occasionally leave debris on runways, usually bits of rubber, which is why there are frequent runway inspections throughout the day. A) there was nothing too unusual in what you heard and b) rarely a need for the aircraft to return. Part of the runway would have been "closed" to permit an inspection and collection of debris.
Aircraft occasionally leave debris on runways, usually bits of rubber, which is why there are frequent runway inspections throughout the day. A) there was nothing too unusual in what you heard and b) rarely a need for the aircraft to return. Part of the runway would have been "closed" to permit an inspection and collection of debris.
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'It's outrageous that you should take Rainboe to task - he is a respected professional pilot.'
what utter bollox! you'll be telling us all next that we shouldn't question your posts either 'cos you're a respected professional ex-ATCO!
The kid asked a question, thats all. WTFs a forum for if it isn't to ask questions? Some of you really do need to come down off those holier-than-thou pedestals that you spend so long balancing on before you get knocked off.
what utter bollox! you'll be telling us all next that we shouldn't question your posts either 'cos you're a respected professional ex-ATCO!
The kid asked a question, thats all. WTFs a forum for if it isn't to ask questions? Some of you really do need to come down off those holier-than-thou pedestals that you spend so long balancing on before you get knocked off.
HeathrowAirport, to try and answer your question. It may well be that nothing at all happened to BA025. It may be that during the early part of their roll they saw something (debris, dead bird or birds, in fact anything which constitutes a potential hazzard) and informed ATC after departure (because they wouldn't start yapping to ATC during the actual take-off). This would warrant a runway inspection in the area where the problem was thought to be. It's as simple as that. Nothing unusual for a busy airport. Happens almost every day all around the world.
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Ok Ill start with an apology to Rainboe if you can accept my apology? I actually did not know what sort of trouble I could have caused the pilots, and I put my hand up that Ive made a mistake by doing so.. But maybe If you could private message me next time, I make a mistake? Becuase I feel like I was told off on a forum, if you get what I mean with thousands of views including the Press that are snooping on here.
But considering there was delays in excess of 40 minutes, surely it was reported but I wont dwell on that, becuase whats said now Ive done it.
Avman, I was told fuel, after XX aircraft departed, thats the only reason I asked on here becuase I was little confused as to what happened, if there was fuel hanging around at N2W surely its come from a planes tanks or unless the engine didnt burn the fuel and came out? Like a backfire in a go-kart engine were the fuel burns in the exaust by accident.
I heard N2W and SB1 was closed to departures and there were using N3 and S3 short of 27L, thats all I know, so I thought someone might know on here.
I didnt do this with intent to get some BA crew sacked or anything like that, I just was asking a "Spotters question"
I put my hand up on this one!
But considering there was delays in excess of 40 minutes, surely it was reported but I wont dwell on that, becuase whats said now Ive done it.
Avman, I was told fuel, after XX aircraft departed, thats the only reason I asked on here becuase I was little confused as to what happened, if there was fuel hanging around at N2W surely its come from a planes tanks or unless the engine didnt burn the fuel and came out? Like a backfire in a go-kart engine were the fuel burns in the exaust by accident.
I heard N2W and SB1 was closed to departures and there were using N3 and S3 short of 27L, thats all I know, so I thought someone might know on here.
I didnt do this with intent to get some BA crew sacked or anything like that, I just was asking a "Spotters question"
I put my hand up on this one!
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Guys just ignore the likes of Rainboe....clearly chips on shoulder or something! Must have been rung up at work for something said on Pprune in the past 
Either that or s/he just doesnt have a life! 
There is never any kind of need for this sort of belligerence from anyone in any walk of life but alas there are some nasty types in Pprune who seem to thrive off it! Dont let this numpty cause anyone to think twice about posting on Pprune!
But always remember..... DONT FEED THE TROLL!
Either that or s/he just doesnt have a life! There is never any kind of need for this sort of belligerence from anyone in any walk of life but alas there are some nasty types in Pprune who seem to thrive off it! Dont let this numpty cause anyone to think twice about posting on Pprune!
But always remember..... DONT FEED THE TROLL!
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Nobody is asking for any apologies, but one does get fed up seeing the most outrageous queries and claims on here identifying a specific flight. All one wants is a little intelligence, thought and discretion before accusing particular flights of having done something, apparently transgressed or done something accused of as dangerous. I recall accusations that a Gulf 777 was flying extremely low and randomly over the Midlands when no such thing occured. However the date, location and airline was identified and the whole thing was nonsense. This is primarily a Prof Pilot Forum (according to the title). Nobody has the right, even under free speech, to come here making suggestions against flights. Get that right and we will all be happy and get on just fine.
I think the way certain members laid into HeathrowAirport was quite embarrassing. The poor lad is only 16, with an obvious keen interest in aviation and to him, was only asking a simple question. At the end of the day anyone could have been at Heathrow watching that aircrafts departure, ranging your average 16 year old closet-plane-spotter to a reporter from The Daily Blurb.
It was a public flight from a civil aerodrome. I'm sure if anything did happen BA's OCC would know about it within seconds. Give the kid a break, you were his age once and probably just as naiieve (sorry HeathrowAirport). An outrageous queery or claim to you may be quite valid and reasonable to him.
H/A, don't apologise, you wouldn't have caused the pilots any trouble at all.
I'm not too bothered if you're a professional and well respected pilot, an ex-ATCO or duty manager at McDonald's, you shouldn't belittle and gang up on a young, possible future member of our industry. We should stick together and encourage eachother - not make one another feel like $hit for asking a harmless question.
It was a public flight from a civil aerodrome. I'm sure if anything did happen BA's OCC would know about it within seconds. Give the kid a break, you were his age once and probably just as naiieve (sorry HeathrowAirport). An outrageous queery or claim to you may be quite valid and reasonable to him.
H/A, don't apologise, you wouldn't have caused the pilots any trouble at all.
I'm not too bothered if you're a professional and well respected pilot, an ex-ATCO or duty manager at McDonald's, you shouldn't belittle and gang up on a young, possible future member of our industry. We should stick together and encourage eachother - not make one another feel like $hit for asking a harmless question.
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Well put !
But I do have to agree that everyone posting anything on these forums should stop and think before pressing the send button. It is a fact that the media do trawl these forums looking for snippets that can be expanded on quiet news days.
I also think its very unlikely that any professional air crew would intentionally cover up or attempt to cover up any incident when air safety is concerned.
Well put !
But I do have to agree that everyone posting anything on these forums should stop and think before pressing the send button. It is a fact that the media do trawl these forums looking for snippets that can be expanded on quiet news days.
I also think its very unlikely that any professional air crew would intentionally cover up or attempt to cover up any incident when air safety is concerned.
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Dont worry Rainboe. Mr. G. AKA Heathrow Airport is a complete Pain In The Arse on all of the other Forums he frequents too. He once tried to sue a Flight Simmers Virtual Airline because he got booted for being a ****.
Seem's he has a thing with people taking people to court....
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Seem's he has a thing with people taking people to court....
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student88 - if the poor little 16 year old doesn't want to be belittled then he should take himself out of pprune and spotters corner especially if he is going to go round belittling the spotters who frequent this thread.
That is his lesson for today.
That is his lesson for today.
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Rainboe - this is an area for the great unwashed who daren't dirty the rumours & news section of the website. If you don't like the people or questions here then maybe you shouldn't come down here into 'Steerage Class'.
I have yet to see a post from Rainboe that shows an ounce of humility.
I have yet to see a post from Rainboe that shows an ounce of humility.